Finally got a tiny gun

Rastoff

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I bought a Shield chambered in 9mm. I resisted it for a long time. Alas, a local store had them on sale for $100 less than normal and I couldn't pass it up.

Just got back from the range and couldn't be happier with it. Fired 50 rounds of the el-cheapo Winchester FMJ stuff and it worked perfectly.

I tested some issues that get brought up regularly with the Shield:

"The mags cannot be loaded to capacity."
I was pleasantly surprised to find the mags easy to load. I have large hands and usually find loading 9mm rounds more difficult. They are small buggers and I almost always bump my thumb on the mag tube. These were easy enough that I didn't damage my thumb. The last round in both the 7 and 8 round mags was tough, but not too bad.

After loading a couple mags by hand, I used the UpLULA. They are super easy with that; even the last round.

"The slide won't lock back."
This is actually a complaint common with most small guns. They have a very stout recoil spring and that makes the slide difficult to push all the way back.

I did have some trouble with mine, but not like you think. I'm a lefty. As such, I usually use the knuckle of my trigger finger to press up on the slide stop to lock the slide back. Well, the slide stop pad is just a tad further back on the Shield that many other guns. This makes it more challenging to press the slide stop up when locking the slide back manually. I have been about 50% successful with my left hand. I've had no trouble with my right hand or with an empty mag inserted.

"Can't disassemble/reassemble the slide."
I actually found the gun just as easy to disassemble as any other M&P. Now, I've been reading this forum for a long time now and knew the proper orientation for the RSA. I'm not going to attempt to induce a problem by using a different orientation. Suffice it to say, this may be a quirk that S&W should address, but is easy enough to operate if you follow the general wisdom and orient the spring like this:
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Note the position of the large spring end.

"The slide stop is too difficult or impossible to press."
Yeah, mine is tough too. Even with the mag removed, the slide stop is really tough. Yes, I can do it, but the overhand rack is much easier. I don't normally use the slide stop to release the slide so, this isn't a big deal for me. Still, it is very tough on this little gun. I attribute it to being new and such a powerful recoil spring.


For the California people:
"That stupid loaded chamber indicator (LCI) is in the way!"
I have to say, I never noticed it. For those not in CA, this is what it looks like:
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Yes, it's large and obvious. However, with the correct sight picture, you can't see it at all. I was going to swap it out for an Apex LCI eliminator, but, after shooting the gun today I see no reason to spend the money. Yes, I know some just can't stand it, but for me it's a non issue. If it's in the way, you're not using the proper sight picture.


OK, there you have it. My first impressions of the Shield now that I actually have one. It's a good little gun. In fact, I've said this before and I'll continue to say it, I think it's the best of the small guns. So, I'll just leave you with this:
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Congrats on the new Shield. I love mine and couldn't imagine being without it. Like you, I've had none of the issues so many here post about. Yes, the slide is more difficult than a lot of other guns but still not that bad. My wife did struggle with hers at first but after I explained to her it didn't want to be babied and she needed to rip it back like she was trying to tear the slide off the back of the frame she now has no trouble with it.

I've always used the slide release and the Shield's slide lock was very difficult at first but after a few hundred rounds it functions just as well as any real slide release. I'm a righty so that definitely helps.

The 2 mags that came with mine were no problem to load although getting that last round in did take some effort. I purchased a couple extra 8 rounders and those were impossible to get more than 6 rounds in without an Uplula but after about a month of sitting around fully loaded they are now just as easy. Guess there's a big variation in the factory mag springs.
 
Welcome to the club! Most of the issues you raised disappear with use.

Never knew the California version had a loaded chamber indicator. In addition to limiting the magazine size and heavier trigger pull what else does CA require?
 
congrats! another lefty here. I've probably put 800 rounds through mine
and I no longer find the slide to be anywhere near as difficult to rack as hen new.
I've had zero issues with mine. I put Ameriglow sights on mine and use pinky extensions
on all of the mags NDZ on the 8's Pierce on the 7's.
I even have a Promag 10 round mag that I've had zero issues with.
I love this gun. the only thing I wish it had was a slide release on both sides.
I have to flip it into my right hand to use it , I haven't figured out a way to do it with my left hand yet.
Another thing you may notice as the gun breaks in (at lest with mine) is now if the
slide is locked back, I can slam in a mag and it resets and chamber a
round (just like my full size does). It didn't start doing that until recently and
I love it, makes tactical reload quicker (I take a lot of training classes)
Enjoy!!! they are great little guns :)
 
Rastoff:
IMHO, your observations on the various owner problems with the
operation of the Shield, are right -on!
Mine is tough to lock back. Slide stop extremely hard to use as a "Slide Release!" and reassembly is tough , but manageable, even for an old man like me!

My Shield9 has over 1,800 rds of all types of ammo and Bullet wieghts and is a very good shooter. The mags. are very easy for me to load by hand, (I have the Uplula but use it only for all my double stack mags.)

Great Images!

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...I love it, makes tactical reload quicker (I take a lot of training classes)
You mean emergency reload, right? As I understand the term, a tactical reload is done with the slide closed.

Gotta keep shopping if you want a "tiny gun".
I don't really want a tiny gun. This one is plenty small enough.
 
"Never knew the California version had a loaded chamber indicator. In addition to limiting the magazine size and heavier trigger pull what else does CA require?"

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A "California compliant" handgun requires a magazine safety and a visible loaded chamber indicator. There are no limitations on trigger pull. Magazines, in general, cannot exceed 10 rounds.

Even more important, all guns must be periodically submitted for "safety testing" by the State, at a substantial cost per model. Approved guns make it to a "roster" of guns legal for sale to the masses. Such guns, at this point, are few and far between. [EDIT: Please read that as, "modern guns that you'd actually be interested in purchasing."] There is an exception for law enforcement, so they can purchase anything.

California law also requires that any new gun model "micro stamp" expended cartridges. It's unclear whether that provision could presently be imposed, as the law also stipulated that it would only go into effect when the technology can presently be implemented (oversimplifying a bit). In the end, it probably doesn't matter, as gun manufacturers have in response essentially abandoned the California market.

The Shield, possibly because it has been a very strong seller, is a notable exception.
 
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I agree that it's probably the best of the small guns. Reasonably priced too. PSA recently had them for $329. Can't really go wrong.
 
A "California compliant" handgun requires a magazine safety and a visible loaded chamber indicator. There are no limitations on trigger pull. Magazines, in general, cannot exceed 10 rounds.

Even more important, all guns must be periodically submitted for "safety testing" by the State, at a substantial cost per model. Approved guns make it to a "roster" of guns legal for sale to the masses. Such guns, at this point, are few and far between. There is an exception for law enforcement, so they can purchase just about anything.

California law also requires that any new gun model "micro stamp" expended cartridge cases. It's unclear (to me) whether that provision could presently be imposed, as the law also stipulated that it would only go into effect when the technology can presently be implemented (I might be oversimplifying that a bit). In the end, it probably doesn't matter, as gun manufacturers have in response essentially abandoned the California market.

The Shield, possibly because it has been a very strong seller, is a notable exception.

As of today there are 767 gun models approved for use in California

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp
 
You mean emergency reload, right? As I understand the term, a tactical reload is done with the slide closed.

I don't really want a tiny gun. This one is plenty small enough.

yes emergency Reload. In the classes I take we just call all variations of these 'tactical"
 
The Shield is a great little carry gun. I kinda regret selling mine now. Always looking for a "better" small gun for days when I need a smaller gun.

Don't know how many rounds I shot through my Shield, but never had any issues with reliability.
 
Prior to purchasing my shield I did a lot of research, no matter how you look at it ..Price, Size, Quality, Perceived issues. It is a great gun and I'm thinking about a second Shield if the right deal comes along.
 
yes emergency Reload. In the classes I take we just call all variations of these 'tactical"
Got it. Since we're on the subject though, I'd like to throw out my thoughts on reloads in general as they pertain to small guns.

The terminology I use is:
Tactical Reload- When one or more rounds has been fired and there is a lull in the action. Should more assailants show up, it's best to have a full gun. So, take out the partially depleted mag, put it in a pocket and insert new mag.

Emergency Reload- You have fired all the rounds in your gun, but still have assailants out there. Drop the empty mag by pressing the mag catch and insert new mag.

Administrative (Re)Load- Your at home or the range and have an empty gun with no magazine in it. There is no emergency and therefore, no reason to hurry. Check the chamber to be sure you know the condition of the gun, insert full mag, rack slide, check chamber again to be sure there is a round in the chamber.

Here's why I mention it:

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Because the grip is short, inserting a magazine can be painful if not being attentive. So, the Shield (all small guns really) requires some practice with the magazines. The last thing you want in a self-defense situation is to injure yourself while attempting an emergency or tactical reload. With an administrative load this should be an issue because you've got time. Alas, lots of people get bit by inserting a magazine every year.
 
I have a Glock 43 which I really like. But I also got a Shield recently. Like it even abit better. So I ordered a PC Shield.
 
Gotta keep shopping if you want a "tiny gun". My Shield is svelte, but it's relatively enormous compared to my P238 or the P938.

Enjoy your new Shield. :)

My P938 is relatively small but "Tiny" is my Seecamp .32 and my NAA .22WMR Mini Revolver.

The Shield IMO is a better small single-stack 9mm alternative to the Glock 43, Ruger LC9 and other $4-$500 7-10-round capacity carry pistols.

Wait! I hear a Performance Center Shield calling my name. :p
 
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