Optical sight on a Compact 2.0?

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What type of optical sight do you guys recommend for my compact 1.0 and maybe a compact 2.0? I don't want to buy a new gun already setup for optics. Never even used a pistol with optics so don't even know where to start looking. I only shoot for personal protection so not really interested in being a great target shooter. I do occasionally shoot steel challenges and being a geezer money is always an issue also.
 
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There are a bunch of possible suggestions. I ran a Trijicon RMR Type 2 (the 3.25MOA RM06 model) on a Dueck Defense mount on my 2.0 compact for a while before I got my 2.0 COREs, and I was pretty happy. The mount has built-in backup sights and is really well made. It needed some fitting but was rock solid.

My only complaint was the set screws. One is located right above the plate for the striker block plunger spring. I didn't check to see if it would impede the function of the block if tightened down... I just took that set screw out and only used the other one.

As for performance the RMR/DD mount worked great. I have used and have partners who use DeltaPoint Pros (a good one is good, and a bad one is bad), RMRs, a couple Aimpoint ACROs, and a smattering of other optics.

If I were on a budget and wanted to experiment with optics, I'd go with the aforementioned DD mount (so no milling necessary) and a Holosun 407C. It's inexpensive and a nice durable optic. If you want to go with a really good setup, I personally think direct milling is the way to go (vs. a factory optic gun) and I'm very impressed with my RMRs. I've owned three and I have two Type 2s now. They all work great.

Dot size is subjective, It seems most people prefer the 3.25 (or smaller dots) but some prefer the largest dots due to astigmatism, specific close-ranger needs, etc. I have both 3.25 and 6.5MOA models and can't decide which I like more.

There is a learning curve that is shortened significantly by proper training, so another aspect to the cost is the dedication to practice and skill development. I looked at pistol optics for a long time before I jumped in the deep end. For many years I thought acquiring the red dot was simply too slow. It took very little time with the correct technique to learn I was very wrong. If you don't have a way to get quality training from someone who knows what they are doing, you'll have to put more time in, but I have a few YouTube videos I could recommend.
 
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I took the jump as well, but mine was predicated on purchasing a 5" Ported CORE slide kit for my FS 1.0. I ended up with a Trijicon RM06 (I got a type 1 on sale). Mine is a 3.25 MOA dot size also.

Of course, my slide is machined for an RDS and came with adapter plates for a variety on RDS's.

Other dovetail based mounts come from EGW, Outer Impact, and other suppliers. You might choose the red dot first, then find a mount to fit.

As CB3 says, Holosun makes good "affordable" sights, as well as Vortex, Burris and a few others. At the higher end are Trijicon and Leupold.

It did take a bit to adapt. With iron sights, you focus on the front sight and superimpose it on your target. Red dots (no magnification) allow you to focus on your target and superimpose the dot. You can also keep both eyes open.

My first red dot was a Vortex Strikefire on my AR. Once I adjusted to it, using my M&P with my RMR was pretty straightforward.
 
Thank you SoCalDep. What videos do you have that would help me?


I really like this one. This is what took me from "neat but how would you ever find the dot under stress?" to buying into the platform. You have to get past his tendency for loquaciousness (See what I did there), but the info is truly legit. Several of our staff have attended his MRDS Instructor class and his info works.

[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9MC7O_CtA&t=207s[/ame]


Here's another. I have found that there are times I'm trying to develop speed of presentation to target and I'm losing the dot with the general "look at the target/hand-eye coordination thing in the video above and I'll do this "pop" thing Travis Haley talks about - it seems to really work and helps me rebuild consistency.

[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULnzq0DIww[/ame]


It's been a long time since I watched either video and I had to search to find them because now acquiring the dot is really consistent after practice. These two videos did a lot to help me through the learning curve.
 
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Thank you for the video links SoCalDep. I think I can make the change from iron sights. Now just to decide what sight to get and whether to have my slide machined or get an adapter for the existing dovetail.
 

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