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Old 03-07-2021, 01:02 AM
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Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c?  
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Question Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c?

Smith & Wesson has discontinued production of the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, which seems odd considering that it was on released about 2 years ago, but that's not the strangest part...

ARCHIVE: M&P(R)40 M2.0™ SUBCOMPACT No Thumb safety | Smith & Wesson

For some odd reason, the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact's predecessor, the M&P40c, is still listed as active on their website...

M&P(R)40 Compact | Smith & Wesson

At first I thought that they were just being slow to mark it as archived, but it has been months now, and the M&P40c remains active on their website. What's more, you can still buy brand new M&P40c pistols, so unless S&W is just extremely backed up on the M&P40c in their factory/warehouse, it would seem as though they discontinued the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, yet are still producing the M&P40c.

Oh, and before anyone cites the .40 S&W cartridge's declining popularity, only the Subcompact has been discontinued. The Full-size M&P40 2.0, M&P40 2.0 Compact, and M&P40 2.0 Shield are still in production, so it isn't that.

Can anyone shine some light on this?
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Old 03-07-2021, 01:18 AM
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During their investor conference call, they explained they dropped some items that had lower margins than their target.
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Old 03-07-2021, 01:40 AM
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Website Developers are not necessarily Gun Guys

A mistake that is blatantly obvious to any Smith & Wesson enthusiast will sometimes escape their field of view

Eventually it will get noticed and the Website Guys will be told to fix it
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so unless S&W is just extremely backed up on the M&P40c in their factory/warehouse, it
This would be my guess . It could be the 40s decline in popularity caught Smith by surprise and they are trying clear out inventory.
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Old 03-07-2021, 10:30 AM
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Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c?  
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Granted, but I can still find brand new M&P40c pistols for sale, which strikes me as odd considering that it was supposedly replaced by the Subcompact about two years ago, so that's an awfully long time for this to have escaped the notice of the website admins, not to mention remain available.

I actually plan on getting an M&P40c in the near future, so it will be interesting to see exactly how far back it dates to once I've looked up the serial number.
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Smith & Wesson has discontinued production of the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, which seems odd considering that it was on released about 2 years ago, but that's not the strangest part...

ARCHIVE: M&P(R)40 M2.0™ SUBCOMPACT No Thumb safety | Smith & Wesson

For some odd reason, the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact's predecessor, the M&P40c, is still listed as active on their website...

M&P(R)40 Compact | Smith & Wesson

At first I thought that they were just being slow to mark it as archived, but it has been months now, and the M&P40c remains active on their website. What's more, you can still buy brand new M&P40c pistols, so unless S&W is just extremely backed up on the M&P40c in their factory/warehouse, it would seem as though they discontinued the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, yet are still producing the M&P40c.

Oh, and before anyone cites the .40 S&W cartridge's declining popularity, only the Subcompact has been discontinued. The Full-size M&P40 2.0, M&P40 2.0 Compact, and M&P40 2.0 Shield are still in production, so it isn't that.

Can anyone shine some light on this?
Probably because it is one the approved handgun list for California.
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Probably because it is one the approved handgun list for California.
It's not. No M&P, other than the Shield 1.0 is CA complaint. Even it has a mag safety and the hideous loaded chamber indicator.

edited to add 1.0 to the Shield.

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Old 03-07-2021, 11:05 AM
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Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c?  
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I'd say the 3.6" which i have and love just didn't sell as well as the 4".

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My guess is that the subcompact didn't sell as well since the compact comes in a 3.6" barrel model which has 3 extra rounds. The decline in popularity (like it or not) has reduced demand across the board so perhaps there's still an abundance of 1.0s in the pipeline so the 2.0 SC was likely the "lowest hanging fruit".
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The 4" barrel, 13 round version is the Glock 23 competitor.
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The M&P 40 Compact SKU 109003 showstgat it is state compliant. ( Does not lidt tge state though).
The archived Subcompact SKU 12483 does not show as atate compliant.
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Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c? Why did S&W archive the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but not the M&P40c?  
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Being state compliant could explain it, but then again, state compliance is generally related to magazine capacity or trigger pull weight, so aside from California, practically any gun can be made state compliant by either selling it with reduced capacity magazines or increasing the weight of the trigger pull.
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The MA compliant 2.0 SC in 9mm has a thumb safety.

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