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So my girlfriend and I took up back pack camping and she had never been camping in her life and now loves it. Been to Colorado, Alaska, and Montana the last couple years and hope to do a lot more as soon as it warms up a little but she says we absolutely MUST have a good gun for bear defense. Well now I have a reason/excuse to buy a new gun and get a 4" M&P 10mm.

First the good news, excellent ergonomics! I have medium large hands and I put on the small grip panel and it fits me perfectly with the trigger, safety, and all controls in the right place with a great "feel". The optics/suppressor height sights looked like they might get in the way a little but man, they work great and that tall front sight just wants to hang on the target. And the trigger, ohhh the trigger. It's better than both my Sig 365 and 365 XL with zero over travel which is very important to me, and much much better than the .40 M&P 1.0 I use to have. The magazine is easy to load with those big fat 10mm rounds and I'm not dropping any cartridges on the ground or tearing up my thumbs like with the tiny 9mms. The mag latch seems very positive and secure and I had no problems at all with magazines inadvertently coming out. Accuracy was great, I was shooting it better than my 9mms due to the great trigger, tall sights, and excellent grip. Recoil was not bad but definitely a bit stouter than a .45 and I was shooting 180 grain Sig ammo at 1250 fps. My 117 lb girlfriend didn't like the recoil at first but she kept shooting it and got used to it and was really proud of herself hitting the middle of the silhouette target at 25 yds. I have owned Smith .41 and .44 magnum revolvers and I didn't enjoy shooting them a lot but with this gun I look forward to burning up a lot ammo in it. Reliability was 100% with no issues.

Now the bad, we didn't like the sharp grip texture at first but I think we both got used to it and realized it helped hang on to the gun. I don't think I would change it even if I could. Also the gun geniuses have decided we don't need a slide release, that a slide stop is best. Well I like a good slide release like a 1911 and don't want to sling shot the gun to charge it. Not a deal breaker but just annoying.

The ugly, the gun is not polished blue steel and walnut. But, as far as plastic guns go it looks pretty cool, maybe I liked the looks of it more because it shot so well. So to sum things up this gun is darn near a perfect 10 to me and I've owned over 100 guns but I realize some other people have not had very good luck with it. I need to put a lot more rounds through the pistol before I give it the final kiss of approval, but right now I'm really looking forward to it.

Almost forgot, with the rebate I paid $489 so its a great value also.

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I'm glad that I'm not the only one who loved the m&p10mm. I have the 4.6 inch barrel and I absolutely love it. I've had 0 issues with mine in roughly 600 or so rounds. It eats everything I feed it. I haven't put any 220gr Underwood through it yet, but I suspect itll eat that up just like it does everything else. I hope yours continues to serve you well as mine has for me.
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I really do need to stop reading the negative criticism of the M&P 10mm and just buy one. The only thing about the gun itself that I absolutely don’t like is those goofy looking tall sights. I realize that they serve a purpose, but I’m one of those old dogs that doesn’t wish to learn any new tricks. As such, I have no interest in using an optic on my pistol, and I’m not about to give our oppressors $200.00 for the privilege of owning a suppressor which should be covered by the words “shall not be infringed”. Therefore, I’d be left with a set of sights that look like coat racks hanging off the top of an otherwise nice looking pistol.
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I really do need to stop reading the negative criticism of the M&P 10mm and just buy one. The only thing about the gun itself that I absolutely don’t like is those goofy looking tall sights. I realize that they serve a purpose, but I’m one of those old dogs that doesn’t wish to learn any new tricks. As such, I have no interest in using an optic on my pistol, and I’m not about to give our oppressors $200.00 for the privilege of owning a suppressor which should be covered by the words “shall not be infringed”. Therefore, I’d be left with a set of sights that look like coat racks hanging off the top of an otherwise nice looking pistol.

After doing the same thing myself I picked up a 4” couple of weeks ago-bday present to me .
Happy I did. I’ve only run a box of Privi JHP’s through it and 5 rounds of my Silvertip stash for sighting purposes and had no problems. I’ll never put an optical sight on it so I’m looking at the XS standard height sights for it. Also wanting to see how it handles the Grizzly 200gr wnfpgc rounds I have for it.

Might use a heavier mainspring as most issues I’ve read about lean towards that or the mag spring. We’ll see how the Grizzly ammo works. Only other things I’ll add is more mags.
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[QUOTE=The Mighty S&W;141663074]I really do need to stop reading the negative criticism of the M&P 10mm and just buy one. The only thing about the gun itself that I absolutely don’t like is those goofy looking tall sights.

I really didn’t want the tall sites either but I’m 63 and my eyes aren’t as good as they used to be and I’ll tell you those sites really help my shooting a lot by being tall.

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Old 01-31-2023, 11:05 AM
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I really do need to stop reading the negative criticism of the M&P 10mm and just buy one. The only thing about the gun itself that I absolutely don’t like is those goofy looking tall sights. I realize that they serve a purpose, but I’m one of those old dogs that doesn’t wish to learn any new tricks. As such, I have no interest in using an optic on my pistol, and I’m not about to give our oppressors $200.00 for the privilege of owning a suppressor which should be covered by the words “shall not be infringed”. Therefore, I’d be left with a set of sights that look like coat racks hanging off the top of an otherwise nice looking pistol.
Like Farmer17, MichaelP57, and others...I really enjoy my M&P 10mm 2.0 and have had zero issues. I, too, had to evaluate all of the negative criticism that came out when the pistol was first introduced, but ended up buying my 4.6" last Sept. I'm an old dog...but I had no problems whatsoever adjusting to the tall iron sights and they shot POA. I did put on a Holosun 507c red dot optic and love it. Those tall sights co-witness with the Circle-Dot reticle perfectly. The grip straps are indeed sharply textured which I like, and the recoil of the M&P 10mm is actually fairly comfortable so the texture shouldn't tear up your hands. No suppressors for me, but I am caught up in the pistol arm brace fiasco, so I may have to deal with the ATF after all. And remember, right now S&W has a $100 rebate for all M&P 2.0 pistols, so you can pick up a 10mm for around $500! Enjoy!
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One thing I’d like to add regarding springs. Specifically the mag springs. I noticed that my new, just purchased mags I have are much stiffer then the springs in the mags that came with the gun. The date on my guns box is 4/22. Maybe Smith secretly stuffed xtra power springs in recently made mags.

Also, I stripped one that came with the gun and one that I bought separately. The new one was reversed- meaning it purposely pushed the back up. Pulled 2 more apart. Same thing.

Both springs are the same as far as coils and length go but I didn’t measure the thickness. I then reversed the springs in the 2 that came with the gun. YMMV
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Nice to read the positive reviews. I've been interested in the M&P 10mm since they were released, but have never gotten around to picking one up. Hopefully Smith and Wesson has gotten past any of the teething issues and the new ones are good to go.
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One thing I’d like to add regarding springs. Specifically the mag springs. I noticed that my new, just purchased mags I have are much stiffer then the springs in the mags that came with the gun. The date on my guns box is 4/22. Maybe Smith secretly stuffed xtra power springs in recently made mags.

Also, I stripped one that came with the gun and one that I bought separately. The new one was reversed- meaning it purposely pushed the back up. Pulled 2 more apart. Same thing.

Both springs are the same as far as coils and length go but I didn’t measure the thickness. I then reversed the springs in the 2 that came with the gun. YMMV
I bought 2 new magazines after I got mine. Both had very stiff springs. So much so that the first time through the gun they both spit the last loaded round completely clear of the gun. After that they were fine. I think using too light of a magazine spring was the biggest issue early on for heavier rounds.

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I am currently disregarding all positive reviews by people who haven't shot the heaviest bullets. If I buy a 10mm it needs to shoot the heaviest, hottest loads; not just warm 40's.

As for the slide stop, people really need to let this one go. The extra velocity of slingshotting the slide ensures that the gun will feed and go fully into battery. It's just a better approach all around.
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The ugly, the gun is not polished blue steel and walnut. But, as far as plastic guns go it looks pretty cool, maybe I liked the looks of it more because it shot so well.

Almost forgot, with the rebate I paid $489 so its a great value also.
I'm not sure if you can call it ugly when it's just the way they make 'em.

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their rough grip will come in handy if your hand is bloody. Not that we want to think about it, but we should. My shootiing buddy said his Mark 25 was pretty slick when he had blood running down his wrist over in the Sandbox.
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their rough grip will come in handy if your hand is bloody. Not that we want to think about it, but we should. My shootiing buddy said his Mark 25 was pretty slick when he had blood running down his wrist over in the Sandbox.
I actually got use to shooting it with the sharp grip surface but I thought it would be a problem carrying it inside the waistband against my bare skin. I was wrong there also, it wasn't uncomfortable at all after I got use to it. The problem is, the material on some of my polyester shirts would stick to the checkering like glue.
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I am currently disregarding all positive reviews by people who haven't shot the heaviest bullets. If I buy a 10mm it needs to shoot the heaviest, hottest loads; not just warm 40's.

As for the slide stop, people really need to let this one go. The extra velocity of slingshotting the slide ensures that the gun will feed and go fully into battery. It's just a better approach all around.


50 years of shooting 1911s, Browning HPs, CZ75s, Smith M39s, Bersas, Rugers, Beretta, HK, etc. etc. never once had a problem with the slide stop feeding a cartridge. I guess it's not that big a deal to go to the slower, two handed, more awkward slingshot method but it just seems strange to make the change.
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50 years of shooting 1911s, Browning HPs, CZ75s, Smith M39s, Bersas, Rugers, Beretta, HK, etc. etc. never once had a problem with the slide stop feeding a cartridge. I guess it's not that big a deal to go to the slower, two handed, more awkward slingshot method but it just seems strange to make the change.
You will always be fastest doing what you practice most. Two handed? You need two hands to insert a magazine anyway. The other hand is already right there.
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I am currently disregarding all positive reviews by people who haven't shot the heaviest bullets. If I buy a 10mm it needs to shoot the heaviest, hottest loads; not just warm 40's.
That's key.

Incidentally, I'm up to 25 reports of the mag drop problem now: S&W M&P 10mm Pistols: Prevalence of the Magazine Drop Malfunction | by Mark | Medium
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That's key.

Incidentally, I'm up to 25 reports of the mag drop problem now: S&W M&P 10mm Pistols: Prevalence of the Magazine Drop Malfunction | by Mark | Medium
Hey Mark, just my two cents but I read your posts about the mag drop issues. Out of curiosity I checked the MA roster and M&P 10 MM was not on the list as of 10-23, and the M&P 2.0's 10MM came out November 2021. Either it didn't meet the state safety specs, or S&W is so done with MA 2a BS, they didn't bother to pay to get it tested.

Customer safety is paramount so hopefully this issue get's recall attention and quicker customer resolutions and satisfaction. You should get a refund since it is probably under warranty.
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