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03-25-2023, 05:56 PM
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M&P9 Shield EZ 9MM
I'm new to this forum and have owned Smith and Wesson all my life but have never come across this problem. I purchased the EZ new and from the first time I shot it I couldn't even hit the target. the only way to hit the target I had to be 2-3 ft away. Has anyone had that type of problem? if so what do I need to remedy this. Any help or ideas would be a great help. sorry if you had to hear this a million times before. But I'm in dire straights, Its my new carry gun. Giving my M&P Shield a break.
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03-25-2023, 06:43 PM
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Has anyone else shot it and duplicated the results you are seeing? Or is that grip safety throwing you off as to how you are holding it? Only asking as I can’t imagine what mechanically could be so far off that you need a target a few feet away. Not saying there cant be an issue, but as one who owns and has owned everything from full size and compact MP 9’s to a Pc Shield and now EZ Shield in 9, went thru thousands of rounds with 0 trouble. Only issue I had going between them was when the compact was new to me and i had to fix my low/left hits; only took a couple rounds to get comfortable with the EZ’s grip safety as well. Also have only used factory rounds never reloads for what thats worth.
So if you have good experience with others in the MP line but the grip safety is affecting how your grip/hold maybe that is something to consider. Just a thought.
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03-26-2023, 08:09 AM
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Please provide more info.
What other distances did you try? 2-3 feet?
What size target?
Are your shots grouping just off target or all spraying all over?
Have you tried resting the gun on something?
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03-27-2023, 12:11 PM
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I would agree, being that far off target is most likely a grip or trigger finger issue. However, my 9EZ rear sight was visually off center when I bought it. The sight is easily adjusted with the allen wrench included with the gun. But that is only going to give you a few inches of correction at 7 yards.
A great tool for identifying and correcting grip/trigger issues is one of the laser training cartridge systems on the market. You can practice dry firing and actually see your POI and if you're pulling your shot. I picked up a cheap one for $23 from Amazon and was surprised with it's accuracy (DAXISONN). There are also free phone apps that record your groupings (G-Sight). It can really help getting familiar with a new gun. Watch some videos online - I became a believer.
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03-27-2023, 02:33 PM
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Are you missing left, right, or up and down? My wife has a habit of shooting high with a 380EZ.
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Originally Posted by s.b.521
I'm new to this forum and have owned Smith and Wesson all my life but have never come across this problem. I purchased the EZ new and from the first time I shot it I couldn't even hit the target. the only way to hit the target I had to be 2-3 ft away. Has anyone had that type of problem? if so what do I need to remedy this. Any help or ideas would be a great help. sorry if you had to hear this a million times before. But I'm in dire straights, Its my new carry gun. Giving my M&P Shield a break.
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...I just bought the 9mm EZ...I fired at 15 feet and hit the target just fine.....man sized target -like the USMC B target ..
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04-21-2023, 05:51 PM
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I have the EZ. Put at least 200 rounds through it. No problems. Before I shot it, I found a You Tube video on disassembly and cleaning. One point in the video cautions about gripping the back strap safety during slide removal resulting in a stuck slide. Today I goofed and got the slide stuck as per the video.  Fix was easy. Tap the slide forward and it will slide off.
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04-22-2023, 03:24 AM
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I have the EZ. Put at least 200 rounds through it. No problems. Before I shot it, I found a You Tube video on disassembly and cleaning. One point in the video cautions about gripping the back strap safety during slide removal resulting in a stuck slide. Today I goofed and got the slide stuck as per the video.  Fix was easy. Tap the slide forward and it will slide off. 
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Then there are those who want to pull the trigger because they think it takes down like a Glock or M&P. That tends to jam up the works, too.
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Then there are those who want to pull the trigger because they think it takes down like a Glock or M&P. That tends to jam up the works, too.
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..every video I've watched on disassembly specifically states that step of disassembly
...I haven't disassembled a 1911A1 for over 30 years, and I don't think you had to pull the trigger for it.....or M9 Beretta?
...is it more common or less to have to do that?
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04-22-2023, 04:51 AM
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Any gun, especially a small one.......
...requires the gun be held perfectly still when sighted ALL THE WAY THROGH THE TRIGGER PULL. There are drills and exercises to do this.
My wife had a hard time with her new Shield EZ. Bullets all over her target. I got her to tighten her grip and the pattern shrank to impressive levels, first day out.
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..every video I've watched on disassembly specifically states that step of disassembly
...I haven't disassembled a 1911A1 for over 30 years, and I don't think you had to pull the trigger for it.....or M9 Beretta?
...is it more common or less to have to do that?
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No pulling trigger for 1911A1 or Beretta 92FS (M9). The Beretta is one of the easiest pistols to field strip and reassemble. . Push in button on left side of frame, push down take down lever on left side and slide comes off. Slip slide on, push slide back, flip up take down lever lever. All done!
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..every video I've watched on disassembly specifically states that step of disassembly
...I haven't disassembled a 1911A1 for over 30 years, and I don't think you had to pull the trigger for it.....or M9 Beretta?
...is it more common or less to have to do that?
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My point is that the EZ380 and EZ9 have internal hammers, they are not striker fired like an M&P or a Glock. You don't pull the trigger because then the hammer is sticking up and you cannot remove the slide. The trigger is not pulled in this video.
What S&W do not emphasize enough is that you must not squeeze the grip safety during disassembly.
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My point is that the EZ380 and EZ9 have internal hammers, they are not striker fired like an M&P or a Glock. You don't pull the trigger because then the hammer is sticking up and you cannot remove the slide. The trigger is not pulled in this video.
M&P 380 Shield EZ Field Stripping Disassembly - YouTube
What S&W do not emphasize enough is that you must not squeeze the grip safety during disassembly.
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ty --I've taken down my EZ many times
..my question was, is it ''common'' or not to have to pull the trigger for disassembly for most pistols?
...I mostly used the 1911A1 in the Corps....we got the M9 a little before I got out --but I totally forget the take down as that was over 30 years ago
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Gotcha.
Most striker fired guns on the market require you to pull the trigger for disassembly. There are exceptions such as guns where the disassembly involves taking the slide back and up to clear the rear slide rails. Examples are the Walther CCP and the Grand Power Q1s. Another exception is the Arex Delta series where the slide comes almost straight up and the striker is disengaged in that movement.
For guns with externally mounted hammers, I cannot think of one that requires you to pull the trigger for disassembly. With internal hammers, you must not pull the trigger or the gun won't come apart. Trouble seems to be that the Glock generation seems to think thta if you cannot see a hammer, the gun must be striker fired, and that's when the fun starts.
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...update: took my wife to the range to fire the EZ 9mm..I took her to shoot a 1911A1 many years ago...over 25 years ago.. her first time firing and never fired a pistol before or after.....this last week she did fine--......of course it was close range, 6-8 ft ... but had to start her off close and easy
I posted the target in the next post
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here is her target...--I'm proud of her shooting - considering what I posted in the above reply...we did not practice much, and she did a good job at timing the shots, not too long and not too quick
...I taught her aggressive stance, solid arm, concentrate more on sights and less on target, etc
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I have an EZ9, and I found one idiosyncrasy with mine that you might want to check out with yours. Try different bullet weights in your ammunition. When I used 115 grain ammunition, the bullets were going so low they practically fell off the bottom of the target. When I changed to ammunition with 147 grain, bullets, the bullets were hitting the target practicallly at point of aim. (7 yards)
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Kinda’.
I found a used EZ 9mm at my LGS for a steal and brought it home. Tried it out at 10yds and was hitting about 3” left of center, using 115gr. Figured I was just having an off day and decided to try it again later. Sights appeared to be centered in the dovetails.
Went out the next day to try it again; same thing. Loosened the allen screw and moved the rear sight pretty far to the right to get it to hit center.
Not sure why it’s like that, but it is.
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