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Old 04-21-2025, 05:15 PM
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I purchased a bodyguard 2.0 over the weekend and have run into a pretty serious (in my opinion) issue. I got the thumb safety option and at first it was super stiff which I know is a common complaint so I didn’t think anything of it. I put about 250 rounds through it and spent a couple days flicking the safety on and off to loosen it up.

Unfortunately I noticed that now it is way TOO loose. The safety wiggles a bit even when it’s in the up position and while it can’t fire when it’s all the way up, even the slightest movement downward will allow it to fully fire. This is before the audible and felt click when it is switched off.

Is there a way I can tighten this thumb safety up without having to send it in? I’m pretty sure it’s an issue with the thumb safety spring but this gun is so small I’m afraid I’ll damage it if I try to fix this myself.

Anybody else seen this issue?

Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I don’t want to blame them for this right now, I don’t know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what.

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Well...Well....that's a new one to add to the list of Bodyguard 2.0 problems....This gun needs a manufacturers safety recall and fix them......Then they need a new VP in charge of QC.
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I purchased a bodyguard 2.0 over the weekend
I am very sorry to read about another failure of this firearm.

Would you mind posting the date right under the BODYGUARD 2.0 on the box?

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Old 04-21-2025, 06:36 PM
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After 173 years of manufacturing world class firearms Smith & Wesson should be the premier designer and manufacturer of top quality innovative firearms. Or am I wanting too much in 2025.
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After 173 years of manufacturing world class firearms Smith & Wesson should be the premier designer and manufacturer of top quality innovative firearms. Or am I wanting too much in 2025.

With today workforce mindset (I am just here to collect a check)
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While this isn't a common complaint (or a well-known failure), it is yet another black mark against S&W and its QC, especially on this particular firearm.

What's next? A slide that flies off?


On the other hand, my recent purchase of the 442-1 reveals it to be a superb firearm, as was my PC Shield in 9mm some years back. I just don't get what the h*** is going on here!

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While this isn't a common complaint (or a well-known failure), it is yet another black mark against S&W and its QC, especially on this particular firearm.

What's next? A slide that flies off?


On the other hand, my recent purchase of the 442-1 reveals it to be a superb firearm, as was my PC Shield in 9mm some years back. I just don't get what the h*** is going on here!
In total agreement...my Shield, my Shield Plus (2 of them) and my CSX E series have all been perfect with no failures of any type and no misaligned parts......so yes ... a good question ... what the heck happens there that causes these problems ?
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Well...Well....that's a new one to add to the list of Bodyguard 2.0 problems....This gun needs a manufacturers safety recall and fix them......Then they need a new VP in charge of QC.
I saw a guy on Reddit who had the same issue - check out this link:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/s/PJwRaqOauG
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Man, I am a HUGE fan of the M&P line. Full size, compact, subcompact, Compact 3.6", 9MM, .45, and .380 in the M&P Bodyguard 1.0. I kept going back and forth with replacing the BG 1.0 with the 2.0.

I've fired nothing other than 50 rounds of Winchester White Box .380 and probably 500 rounds of my own reloads. Never one malfunction. Long trigger, sure, but at 7 yards the group would fit in a paper plate rapid firing. Good enough for what that gun is made for. Belly gun up close range I would ever have to shoot this gun, the target is gonna be way closer than 7 yards.

I'm sticking with the 1.0 for now. The day I thought about buying the BG 2.0, I walked out with a Beretta Cheetah 80X instead. Smooth as silk and screams class and style.

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I currently have the LCP Max and am considering moving to the Bodyguard 2.0 for the slightly longer grip. Generally I like waiting about a year so the manufacture and go through their growing and perfect the gun especially if I’m going to use it as an EDC. The Max had its issues when it first came out but everything has been fixed. My only problem is I like the holsters made by Urban Carry and right now they don’t have one for the Bodyguard.
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Hopefully S&W can help me out, still waiting for a reply from them on this.
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I currently have the LCP Max and am considering moving to the Bodyguard 2.0 for the slightly longer grip. Generally I like waiting about a year so the manufacture and go through their growing and perfect the gun especially if I’m going to use it as an EDC. The Max had its issues when it first came out but everything has been fixed. My only problem is I like the holsters made by Urban Carry and right now they don’t have one for the Bodyguard.
Urban Carry Locking Leather holsters are just great! Unfortunately, their customer support says they will not be out until 2026!
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Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I am hesitant to blame them for this right now, I don’t know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what. Anyways, I’ll post more when I hear back!
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Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I am hesitant to blame them for this right now, I don’t know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what. Anyways, I’ll post more when I hear back!
I think holding off judgement is good, this one is a bit odd. The same style safety is on the shield line if I understand correctly so that's one part that probably has a solid track record. Only complaint I had heard was it was too stiff but loosened up with a bit of oil and repetitions. I'd bet this is not part of the usual list of issues.
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...Then they need a new VP in charge of QC.
You assume they have one now?

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... I am hesitant to blame them for this right now...
S&W loves you as a customer! Safety works out of the box, but after a few boxes of ammo it stops working, yet you are hesitant to blame them for a substandard firearm.

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My two BG2.0s run like tops, as do the two others at our Club.
Haven't lost faith just yet.
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Speaking of “safety failure”….

I would very much like to be in the same camp as those who have had great experiences with the BG2.

One other issue that I find bothersome is the trigger safety. The flat trigger blade (wider than the trigger and has sharp edges) must be fully compressed against the trigger to prevent the little tab that is designed to prevent the trigger from being pulled to fire a round.

If my finger does not rest on the bottom of the trigger guard and pulls the trigger safely blade at the very beginning of my trigger movement, the little tab that protrudes into the slot at the back of the trigger will catch slightly.

It makes me feel like I reach a trigger soft wall before the actual break. I can pull through that “detent” effect, however it causes a bumpy trigger and unnecessary energy and movement to my grip.

Again, a design flaw in my opinion.
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Speaking of “safety failure”….

I would very much like to be in the same camp as those who have had great experiences with the BG2.

One other issue that I find bothersome is the trigger safety. The flat trigger blade (wider than the trigger and has sharp edges) must be fully compressed against the trigger to prevent the little tab that is designed to prevent the trigger from being pulled to fire a round.

If my finger does not rest on the bottom of the trigger guard and pulls the trigger safely blade at the very beginning of my trigger movement, the little tab that protrudes into the slot at the back of the trigger will catch slightly.

It makes me feel like I reach a trigger soft wall before the actual break. I can pull through that “detent” effect, however it causes a bumpy trigger and unnecessary energy and movement to my grip.

Again, a design flaw in my opinion.
After 1200 rounds I would have to disagree, never noticed this. YMMV
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I have been working the safety on and off on my new BG 2.0 for a solid week now while watching TV at night. It has gone from ridiculously stiff to just just barely too stiff. I really like this little pistol, time will tell I guess.
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Urban Carry Locking Leather holsters are just great! Unfortunately, their customer support says they will not be out until 2026!
They don’t make one for the Bodyguard 2 😢
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