CABELAS M&P 15 MOE???

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I have had my eye on the SW M&P 15 MOE edition and I just noticed this one that will be on sale this week at Cabelas:

Cabelas - Q1V - Hoffman Estates_Hammond

This looks very similar to the MOE edition, but lacks the front sight and seems the lack the MBUS rear site as well. Can anyone identify this specific model? Would SW customer service be able to identify the model? If would need to know how what components (and how many) are chromed.

Thank you!



Justin
 

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That's not an MOE. It's an OR (optics ready) model. All of the S&W M&Ps have the same functional parts (bolt, action spring, barrel, upper, & lower). The only real differences between them are the furniture and the sights.
 
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Based on more info retrieved from Cabelas website, this specific model is the M&P15OR-MOE

M&P15OR – This model has a flat-top receiver with an integrated rail and a shorter second rail in front of the forend to accommodate your choice of accessories.

M&P15OR-MOE – Identical to the M&P15OR above, but outfitted with a Magpul® MOE adjustable stock, grip and handguard.

Cabela's: Smith & Wesson M&P15 Semiautomatic Rifles

Thank you for the info Jsimmons.



Justin
 
IF it is an OR model, the front sight should NOT be polymer as the MOE folding sights are. IMHO, buy an OR and outfit it with Troy or YHM or MI metal folders OR just go with a nice 1-4 optical scope. The MOE handguard fits some better than others and it is a crapshoot, IMHO.
 
Yup, the real issue here is sights. If the gun comes to you exactly as is shown in the ad, it is not ready to shoot. You will have to put over $100 more into sights, especially since the front sight cannot be a plastic MBUS. Now you're looking at spending well over a grand on an M&P15. M&Ps are ok ARs, but I would not spend that much on one. Far better options out there in that price range, especially if you are willing to piece together an upper and lower.

Also keep in mind you are getting a 1/9 barrel with this gun, which is far from ideal if you want to shoot heavier bullets. Heck, even the Sport has a better barrel and is significantly cheaper even at the everyday, non-sale price.
 
MPDC said:
IF it is an OR model, the front sight should NOT be polymer as the MOE folding sights are. IMHO, buy an OR and outfit it with Troy or YHM or MI metal folders OR just go with a nice 1-4 optical scope. The MOE handguard fits some better than others and it is a crapshoot, IMHO.
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Regarding the MOE handguard fit, I just got back from the range and there was a young man with a new Colt AR dressed in MOE. The handguard had side to side play though not excessive. It did not have any forward or rearward play like I've read about. I really like the way the MOE handguard feels but I'm not willing to gamble on fit.
 
I got that OR-MOE model at Cabela's for the same price, several weeks ago. I've not shot it yet unfortunately. Waiting on backordered Troy Sights. About all I can add is that the handguard fit is secure on mine.
 
I have an M&P15 OR....bought a couple of years ago.

Spent $$ on the MagPul handguard. Bad choice....it was a loose fit.
 
Just got the sport from cabelas. Didn't WANT nor NEED a dust cover, and forward assist is my right index finger and scalloped bolt recess...unless it's uber hot. Can't see the use of a dust cover when after first shot, its open anyway. Plus, no desert combat. As for OR model M&P 15, less is more. Taking a lightweight weapon, and hanging 2-3 pounds of **** on it seems a bit goofy.
 
I have the MOE, with the following mods:

0) Magpul CTR stock

1) CAA UPG-16 pistol grip

2) Yellow trigger spring kit

3) Trigger pin anti-rotation pins

4) Sights - Troy rear flip-up and YHM flip-up at the front.

5) Vortex flash hider

I've had the MOE hand guard on/off a couple of times, and each time I put it back on, it snugs right up like it should. Other then some judicious use of camo-wrap, the rifle is slim/trim and weights the same as it did when I bought it. No lights, no forward grip, and no tripod.

I have to admit that I did cheap out on the red dot until finances improve - I got a Primary Arms Microdot for now, but plan on an Aimpoint Micro sometime next year. Admittedly, my current PA has been flawless thus far and cost less than 1/4 of what the Aimpoint does.

One other thing - steel-cased ammo does not present a problem for this rifle. I mainly shoot Tula for practice, and have a stash of M855 in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

I think the forward assist and dust cover are important additions to the rifle, especially if this is going to be your SHTF rifle.
 
I disagree with the importance of the dust cover specifically, and find forward assist being given far too much. When SHTF (as in a WW3 scenario I don't see happening, or an even less likely zombie apocalypse) I would rather be in the company of a no frills ergonomic weapon. After the first shot fired, what purpose does the dust cover serve? Forward assist? Use a thumb and push on the bolt, hot or not, it'll work I've done it.

As for MOE version, looks sharp but heard bad things of magpul stocks. Their mags rule though.
 
Can't say that I have. But, last I checked, this isn't Afghanistan, nor will I get into an argument about the positive affects of a piece of plastic in a war I did and never have agreed with.

Fact is, whether my Missouri hardwoods or someone else's backyard firing range, in a hunting situation or even a two way range I'm glad to have less **** to worry about failing.

P.s. Going to the war scenarios over a semi automatic weapon that never saw that campaign is ludicrous.

Magpul mags rule, stocks suck, and it is MY opinion, which I'm entitled to, that the dust cover is an uneccessary device. Thank you.
 
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Can't say that I have. But, last I checked, this isn't Afghanistan, nor will I get into an argument about the positive affects of a piece of plastic in a war I did and never have agreed with.

Fact is, whether my Missouri hardwoods or someone else's backyard firing range, in a hunting situation or even a two way range I'm glad to have less **** to worry about failing.

P.s. Going to the war scenarios over a semi automatic weapon that never saw that campaign is ludicrous.

Magpul mags rule, stocks suck, and it is MY opinion, which I'm entitled to, that the dust cover is an uneccessary device. Thank you.
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I see no need for the political comment. i for one am thankful to those who serve and have served in Afghanistan. Nobody loved being in Vietnam either but.....................
 
Afghanistan is a great place to learn about M-4s. :D How to use them, how to care for them, and what makes them choke. I'm glad I had the opportunity to serve there, regardless of how many people "disagree" with the wars. ;)

So in an effort to get this thread back on track, what happened to the OP? Did he get his gun? :D
 
Dragon88 said:
Afghanistan is a great place to learn about M-4s. :D How to use them, how to care for them, and what makes them choke. I'm glad I had the opportunity to serve there, regardless of how many people "disagree" with the wars. ;)

So in an effort to get this thread back on track, what happened to the OP? Did he get his gun? :D
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Thank you for serving. I have many family members who have, and I agree that the middle east is a great testing ground. I just think that whatever is necessary there is basically moot here. Most of us will not see urban or desert conflict. But home defense is something we can ALL relate to. That being said, you to yours and me to mine.

Have you seen the vid of a gent who's hand gets literally stuck and chewed up by a magpul stock. Ewwwww...
 
MPDC said:
I see no need for the political comment. i for one am thankful to those who serve and have served in Afghanistan. Nobody loved being in Vietnam either but.....................
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...but what? I'm not the one who brought politics into a firearm conversation. Keep the thread on track. I made a comment regarding my opinion of dust covers and forward assist. I am thankful to those who serve in armed forces, however I will not apologize for my opinion of the middle eastern conflict. My favorite uncle is a veteran of Vietnam, another war I have issue with, but it's hindsight.

That aside, the smith and wesson M&P 15, in my opinion, is awesome regardless of variation. They have done a good job of making an affordable AR that is quality.
 
meanmrmustard said:
...but what? I'm not the one who brought politics into a firearm conversation. Keep the thread on track. I made a comment regarding my opinion of dust covers and forward assist. I am thankful to those who serve in armed forces, however I will not apologize for my opinion of the middle eastern conflict. My favorite uncle is a veteran of Vietnam, another war I have issue with, but it's hindsight.

That aside, the smith and wesson M&P 15, in my opinion, is awesome regardless of variation. They have done a good job of making an affordable AR that is quality.
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LOL, nice recovery but if you reread your post IN CONTEXT you connected the war and the issue. THAT took it off track, IMHO. Lots of relatives served, OK, good for THEM.

Now back to the "track", as you were, carry on.:D
 
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IMO dust covers are very needed on any AR used for anything other than just range use. The best way to keep an AR reliable is to run the bolt/bolt carrier wet (well lubricated). The dust cover serves to help keep this lube from being contaminated with debris, rubbing off or drying out. And yes it will be open while shooting but any knowledgeable user will keep it closed at all other times, not hard to do. So on any rifle other than a range toy the dust cover is needed, forward assist not needed but not really worth the effort to find an upper without one to me.
 
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