Top Tier AR

Dandecoteau said:
What does a super fancy modded out AR do?
It shoots a small bullet really fast.
Funny, my all stock 500$ dpms does the same thing......
Click to expand...

It depends on how and where you are shooting those little bullets. I would say that 90%+ of the quality of any shooting is going to be the Indian not the arrow but there are differences between cheaper low end rifles and higher end ones.

JaPes has it right in that attention to detail makes a lot of the difference between rifles. Quality of materials also comes into play. Ergos are subjective so one mans trash is another mans treasure.

I personally look and see the difference in price between a higher end rifle and a base model is not big enough for me to get the base model. These days I only own 2 AR15s. A slightly modified Colt 6920 and a BCM 14.5" ELW Mid Length Keymod. Both are basically as much rifle as I need. ;)

If the goal is just plinking a few hundred rounds once a month on a square range from a rest then just about any rifle will do. When it moves beyond that there are rifles for just about every task. The real trick is to know the difference between need and want.
 
Last edited:
Was looking to modify my Sport but decided against it. I wanted a bolt rifle in .556 and now I'm building my first AR that is basically going to be a straight pull bolt rifle (non gas). I'm going with an AR Stoner side charge upper receiver and have just about everything I need except for the gas block. The gas block is going to be used to cover the gas port but was thinking of going with an adjustable version incase if I want to go semi-auto later. Like everyone is saying the AR platform can be whatever you want.
 
First, let say this about the Sport II, it is a fine rifle and I enjoy mine. I have a POF Purtian piston that if it is not top tier, it doesn't miss by much and they both shot a whole lot better than I can.
A couple of things I did do to my Sport II was add a Magpul front hand guard, a Magpul stock and a Magpul grip, all in FDE. I did change The charging handle to a Bravo Company and BCG to a Nc WMD both of which I had from a previous rifle that had very few rounds through it. These things I did because I wanted to,not because the rifle needed them.
Mil spec is a miss used term anymore. The Sport is not, nor is it intended to be "Mil spec". The "enhancements" I added was done simply because I had some parts from the M&P I traded for the POF and I happen to like the Magpul stock, grip and front hand guard.
 
jimbo728 said:
The one thing I learned about mil spec is that its product is
usualy the one offered by the lowest bidder.
Jim
Click to expand...

Mil Spec in actually, is the MINIMIUM requirements allowed to be used for a product and must meet or exceed those requirements to be accepted.

Lowest bidder doesn't always have the better equipment, just a lower price. I want quality, durability and dependability. NOT something that's short lived and expendable in the short run that barely makes the grade.

Then we get into name brands and "It's gotta be good, because it's an XXXX". That theory goes out the window now a days due to the bean counters, costs, profit margins and the CEO wants his bonus check along with the investors. They want production going out the door and that's where "Quality Control" gets nudged/pushed to the wayside and the employee could care less as long as they make his/her quota, keep the foreman off their "6" (being it's so easy to replace an employee), keep their job and get that paycheck.
 
Last edited:
With the exception of the members who are with law enforcement and the military, none of us can possess a truly mil spec rifle since this specification is written for select fire rifles. You can buy rifles with certain mil spec compliant parts and testing but not the whole enchilada. I have four Colt AR's but even they are not truly mil spec.
 
R. G. Amos said:
With the exception of the members who are with law enforcement and the military, none of us can possess a truly mil spec rifle since this specification is written for select fire rifles. You can buy rifles with certain mil spec compliant parts and testing but not the whole enchilada. I have four Colt AR's but even they are not truly mil spec.
Click to expand...
And unless you have some unique version all you are missing is the selector and the barrel length. Neither of which effect quality or function. There were no cost savings in material, or build, which is what matters
 
Leave your Sport II alone!

The Sport II is a fine $600 rifle, good enough for me as it came out of the box. I just put a sling on mine and a carry handle I had laying around because I like the old school sights. But the Magpul sights are fine too.

I fired it the other day to get a zero and to check function. Everything A-OK so far.

Rather than spend money on stuff the rifle doesn't need I'll buy ammo and practice with it more.
 
smithman 10 said:
The Sport II is a fine $600 rifle, good enough for me as it came out of the box. I just put a sling on mine and a carry handle I had laying around because I like the old school sights. But the Magpul sights are fine too.

I fired it the other day to get a zero and to check function. Everything A-OK so far.

Rather than spend money on stuff the rifle doesn't need I'll buy ammo and practice with it more.
Click to expand...

I'm sorry, smithman, but your post has been determined to be entirely too reasonable. ;) :cool:

(I only added a light and sling myself.)
 
Dandecoteau said:
What does a super fancy modded out AR do?
It shoots a small bullet really fast.
Funny, my all stock 500$ dpms does the same thing......
Click to expand...

Oh yeah? But does it do it as cool???? That's what matters most, it's why the phrase 'tacticool' was invented
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
Anyone who knows the difference between a mil-spec trigger and Geissele or Wilson Combat, understands just how poorly mil-spec can compare to other designs.
Click to expand...
True but the triggers were ment for two different things. Not taking either side but for military applications they don't need WC or Geissele
 
Arik said:
True but the triggers were ment for two different things. Not taking either side but for military applications they don't need WC or Geissele
Click to expand...

Wison Combat makes an excellent duty trigger. Not just talking about bench toys.

But if the point is that in military engagements rifles are often used to fire in a general direction rather than actually taking aim, thus a consistent pull absent excessive creep and stacking is of less benefit, then I agree. But then we're back to explaining that mil-spec is of lesser performance and are better options for the consumer market.
 
Last edited:
Kadonny said:
This. My Sport mil spec trigger is pretty good, but my Colt mil spec was horrid.
Click to expand...

Mil Spec triggers are a **** shoot. My Colt actually had the best off all my factory AR's, my M&P 15A was the worst. My Core 15 is right there with my Colt. Now upper to lower slop, my Colt was by far the sloppiest of any AR I own. But they all function every time.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

P
M&P Sport II
Replies
2
Views
333
ColbyBruce
C
B
I have sinned - restoring 586 no dash
Replies
18
Views
949
SGT ROCK 11B
SGT ROCK 11B
Esparza
Best site for AR upgrades
Replies
14
Views
2K
RCL-09
R
M
Sport 3 "Compliant" stock replacement
Replies
12
Views
2K
mscampbell2734
M
J
Best Tier II (aka Level 2) holster for S&W Equalizer?
Replies
0
Views
1K
john-boy
J

Latest posts

Back
Top