Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 Rifle Scope on Sport2? 1x front sight interference f/ CQB?

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Vortex Optics - Strike Eagle 1-6x24 AR-BDC

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Anyone running one?
How is the scope at 1x for CQB with both eyes open?

I'm concerned the Sport 2's front iron A2 sights will obstruct the view at 1x for CQB and inside gun ranges and will force me to go with the Vortex SparcAR instead.

Thanks.

Thanks.
 
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highsideforum said:
Vortex Optics - Strike Eagle 1-6x24 AR-BDC

rfl_strike-eagle_1-6x24_ar-mount-t.jpg



Anyone running one?
How is the scope at 1x for CQB with both eyes open?

I'm concerned the Sport 2's front iron A2 sights will obstruct the view at 1x for CQB and inside gun ranges and will force me to go with the Vortex SparcAR instead.

Thanks.

Thanks.
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The front sight will disappear when looking through the sight even at 1X. I my experience it is not exactly 1X. At ranges under 200 it is not truly 1X if that makes sense. Under 200 it seems like 1.5X.

There is parallax distortion under 100 yards which bothers some people. It is not parallax "free" like a red dot. Eye relief is 3" to 3.5" IIRC.

The "eye box" size is not very forgiving so shooting with both eyes open will be dependent on mounting and if you shoot nose to the charging handle or further away from the handle.

You can shoot it from 15 to 400-500 IMHO. They will tell you it can shoot 600 but that is asking it to do a lot and your eyes have to do their part.

It is a decent budget 1X6 I looked long and hard at it vs the Primary Arms. I ended up with a LNIB used Primary Arms at a good price.

It is not the ideal tool for shooting under 100 yards IMHO. It really starts to show its value over a red dot at 150-200 depending on your vision and what type of shooting you are doing. It will always be slower at shorter distances than a red dot.
 
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I just installed mine with 1/3 Co witness . I did not think I would like it for Iron sight s but I was wrong :O I can use my Iron sights if I do not want the Red Dot.. The S.F. Red Dot at 100 yards shoot fine for me :) BUT I can only see the paper and guessed at the target,, 50 Yards I like alot better
My 2 targets at 100 Yards with the S.F. Red Dot I was guessing on the Zombie and went center mass on the target, I hit the paper so I am happy :) Not great shot at all but for me :)
 

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Radco said:
I just installed mine with 1/3 Co witness . I did not think I would like it for Iron sight s but I was wrong :O I can use my Iron sights if I do not want the Red Dot.. The S.F. Red Dot at 100 yards shoot fine for me :) BUT I can only see the paper and guessed at the target,, 50 Yards I like alot better
My 2 targets at 100 Yards with the S.F. Red Dot I was guessing on the Zombie and went center mass on the target, I hit the paper so I am happy :) Not great shot at all but for me :)
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How did you mount a Strike Eagle 1x6 1/3 co witness?
 
Thanks for the replies.
Please keep them coming.

I'm still trying to decide between the Vortex Sparc AR and the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x for my otherwise unmodified Sport 2.
(range shooting and backup home defense to my Glock19)
 
I agree with WVsig. A 1-4, 1-5, 1-6, and 1-8X scope is the closest you will get to "best of both worlds" but is not a perfect answer for close range and distance shooting. But you can make it work.

There is no "one size fits all" solution out there in one optic really. You just have to decide what your rifle's main mission is going to be and pick the best match for that purpose. The 1-x scopes come close but due to physics, can't perfectly hit the mark. Now a $1200 optic might be a different story but I'm not about to put a $1200 optic on a $600 rifle.
 
WVSig said:
The front sight will disappear when looking through the sight even at 1X. I my experience it is not exactly 1X. At ranges under 200 it is not truly 1X if that makes sense. Under 200 it seems like 1.5X.
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Say what?

Now, there is no "true" 1x with a variable magnification optic, but any optic set at 1x that the front sight disappears isn't even close and shouldn't even be labled as such. From cheap optics like my Bushnell to high end, the front sight is in view, albeit fuzzy. What optics claiming 1x are you referring to?

This is my Bushnell 1-4x scope.

1X



4x





Here's some I plucked off the Net as as examples.

Vortex Viper PST



Trijicon TR24 I believe is rated at 1.25x



Primary Arms 1-6x. This particular pic was posted by Primary Arms. Likely to show how close to 1x it was.

 
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I have a NIB Strike Eagle sitting in my safe just waiting for my Sport II to be finished with cerakoting. I have a Burris PEPR mount for it as well.

If you get the Sparc and have second thoughts, I may work a trade with you. Mine is a safe queen so I am wondering if I should have dropped $400 on a darn scope and mount in the first place.
 
highsideforum said:
Anyone running one?
How is the scope at 1x for CQB with both eyes open?

I'm concerned the Sport 2's front iron A2 sights will obstruct the view at 1x for CQB and inside gun ranges and will force me to go with the Vortex SparcAR instead.

Thanks.

Thanks.
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What's the rationale above? If you're concerned that the front sight will "obstruct" the view with the 1-6x set at 1x, what has that got to do with the Sparc AR which the front sight will cleary obstruct?

FYI - There are lots of guys who are't bothered by the front sight.
 
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WVSig said:
For me the front post effectively disappears in my sight picture. You call it fuzzy I say it disappears because I don't see it. My eyes don't focus on it. It does not change my sight picture it does not effect me. It for all intents and purposes "disappears". If I has a A2 post yes I would see the sides but as far as the front post it is gone. Maybe I did not make that distinction which caused you so much discomfort with my language.
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Sorry WVSig, but Phil is absolutely right. There is a big difference between the front sight disappearing vs. not noticing it.

I use a red dot that is absolute co-witnessed to my front sight. I don't notice the front sight as I shoot with both eyes open and focus on the target down range... but it is still there in the sight picture. I've just taught myself to ignore it.
 
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cyphertext said:
Sorry WVSig, but Phil is absolutely right. There is a big difference between the front sight disappearing vs. not noticing it.

I use a red dot that is absolute co-witnessed to my front sight. I don't notice the front sight as I shoot with both eyes open and focus on the target down range... but it is still there in the sight picture. I've just taught myself to ignore it.
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For me its gone. Don't see it. You see it the same way Phil does and I would not dispute that but your experience does not apply to me as my experience does not apply to you. I guess the difference is that I would not say you are wrong. YMMV

Just to double checked I just took out my PSA 18" build with a PA Arms 1X6 and I cannot see the front post of my Magpul Pro front sight post. It does not matter if illumination is on or off again YMMV.
 
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Rather than weighing in on who is right or wrong, I think the pictures give the OP a good idea of what to expect that was specific to his concern about the front sight with an optic set on 1x. And that's really the point to all this, to help answer the OPs question with information he can use to help in the decision process.
 
Well, I made arrangements to demo a few of the scopes first hand today.
I couldn't use both eyes open on 1x with the Strike Eagle too well.
So, I pulled the trigger on a Red Dot.

I'm going to eventually co-mount a 3x Prism to combine it with my Red Dot for for the best of both worlds on the same AR.

I greatly appreciate the info shared on this forum and hopefully the Strike Eagle discussion will continue on in this thread to benefit those still considering buying one for themselves.
 
I think it's more about whether you notice the front sight or not. If you're totally focused on the reticle, I can see how you wouldn't "see" the front sight.

For me it bugged me enough I cut it off:
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