Warranty
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No, I believe the warranty is for the orig. owner only. You may want to call S&W and verify. The only brand of gun that I know of that has a lifetime warranty on the gun regarless of owner is Hi-Point.
The good thing is, if you paid a low amount for the gun is, the parts are kind of cheap. If the body of the gun is defective you Out of luck.
I learned the hard way myself about buying used guns too. DON'T!
The good thing is, if you paid a low amount for the gun is, the parts are kind of cheap. If the body of the gun is defective you Out of luck.
I learned the hard way myself about buying used guns too. DON'T!
I believe (but could be wrong) that Taurus warrants the gun, and not the purchaser.
This is one reason that I don't like to buy used guns...as well as with a new gun, you know what has been done and how it has been handled.
This is one reason that I don't like to buy used guns...as well as with a new gun, you know what has been done and how it has been handled.
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Don't tell them it wasn't yours unless they ask. I don't lie, I only only give the info they ask for. Let them determine if they will fix it or not.
By the way, welcome to the forum!
By the way, welcome to the forum!
Ruger Nut
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Yes it is.When I sent my .40VE in awhile back I asked if I were to buy a used 9VE,if the warranty was void for me.They told me it was still under a lifetime warranty,used,second owner,etc.The 9VE sold so I bought a new one.
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Here you go the straight truth from S&W
Service Information
The Smith & Wesson Advantage™
In addition to providing some of the highest quality products available today, Smith & Wesson is committed to providing our customers with support and services second to none. When you purchase a Smith & Wesson handgun, you receive the Smith & Wesson Advantage™, comprised of four service features:
1. Lifetime Service Policy
We will repair any defect in material or workmanship without charge to the original purchaser for as long as you own the handgun.
2. Expedited 911 Priority Service
This service is available in the event emergency repairs are needed by law enforcement, military, or government personnel. This service allows you to expedite the prompt repair and return of your handgun.
3. Easy Access Customer Support
Our customer support representatives are available to assist your every need.
Contact Us
4. Pride
Our customer support staff is proud to represent Smith & Wesson. They are dedicated to helping customers and look forward to providing you with a level of support equal to the quality level of Smith & Wesson products. Call us any time, even before you make your purchase. Our customer support team is product knowledgeable and can help you decide which model best suits your needs.
Sadly most firearm companies have gone to this kind of warranty there are two possible reasons one the company knows its product will fail after a certain amount of time and consider it too costly to offer life time repair, or two the company just wishes to save money by only offering warranty work to the original owner.
I dont really blame them with the countless number of people sending a perfectly functioning firearm in to try and get a free trigger job. KelTec went this route recently and I hope HiPoint does not follow, we can prevent this by simply not sending a firearm in for no real reason. Most of the time you can work with the warranty dept. and obtain the broken part without ever sending in your firearm.
Service Information
The Smith & Wesson Advantage™
In addition to providing some of the highest quality products available today, Smith & Wesson is committed to providing our customers with support and services second to none. When you purchase a Smith & Wesson handgun, you receive the Smith & Wesson Advantage™, comprised of four service features:
1. Lifetime Service Policy
We will repair any defect in material or workmanship without charge to the original purchaser for as long as you own the handgun.
2. Expedited 911 Priority Service
This service is available in the event emergency repairs are needed by law enforcement, military, or government personnel. This service allows you to expedite the prompt repair and return of your handgun.
3. Easy Access Customer Support
Our customer support representatives are available to assist your every need.
Contact Us
4. Pride
Our customer support staff is proud to represent Smith & Wesson. They are dedicated to helping customers and look forward to providing you with a level of support equal to the quality level of Smith & Wesson products. Call us any time, even before you make your purchase. Our customer support team is product knowledgeable and can help you decide which model best suits your needs.
Sadly most firearm companies have gone to this kind of warranty there are two possible reasons one the company knows its product will fail after a certain amount of time and consider it too costly to offer life time repair, or two the company just wishes to save money by only offering warranty work to the original owner.
I dont really blame them with the countless number of people sending a perfectly functioning firearm in to try and get a free trigger job. KelTec went this route recently and I hope HiPoint does not follow, we can prevent this by simply not sending a firearm in for no real reason. Most of the time you can work with the warranty dept. and obtain the broken part without ever sending in your firearm.
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Ruger Nut
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That's strange.I was told by the customer service rep,at the time I was getting my FED-X papers,that no matter who owns a S&W weapon made after 1989,the lifetime warrany applies.I'm going to call them tomorrow.
Hey guys, thanks alot for the input. I stripped the gun all the way down today and gave it a full cleaning. Being a SIGMA its a really simple design and there is very little wear. I paid $250 for it with 3 mags, so I think it was worth the money. I wanted to buy an SD but for now this will have to do.
By the way, anyone out there done thier own trigger job on the SIGMA?
I pulled the unnecessary springs out of the backside trigger assembly and didn't feel much of a difference in the pull, so I put everything back in. I hear there is a lighter spring guys are putting on the firing pin.... does this reduce the pull?... thanks again!
I pulled the unnecessary springs out of the backside trigger assembly and didn't feel much of a difference in the pull, so I put everything back in. I hear there is a lighter spring guys are putting on the firing pin.... does this reduce the pull?... thanks again!
Ruger Nut
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Vector16 has done a trigger job on his and has almost 20K rounds thru it with no FTFs or FTEs. His post is in this forum.
its a recoil dependent DAO the only way to reduce the felt weight is by replacing the striker spring. The weight you feel is the striker spring being pulled back. Some have reported light strikes some say it works. Personally if it aint broke....well you know the rest
Hey Rugernut, Glock has a 1 year warranty. It does not cover the gun if you use lead ammo.
As fot the trigger job, There are 2 springs you need to remove. not just the pig tail spring. If you hold the sear assembly right side up, remove the pig tail spring and the fattest, shorter spring in the middle of the assembly keep the long skinny spring in the assembly. Its kind of a pain in the ashmeer but it will take the trigger pull down to 4-5 lbs. DO NOT replace the striker spring with the lighter Wolff spring if you ever have to depend on the gun to save your Ashmeer the trigger may not reset. You may also want to polish the metal parts on the sear assembly to lighten the trigger even further. Its not nessessary after both spring are removed though. Unless you want a hair trigger which I do not recommend. if you want to shorten the trigger pull i do know of a way but its a very touchy subject on this forum and if not done right you will ne a brand new saer assembly. For more details on the shortened pull send me a private email.
I still 100% disagree on removing any of the springs in the sear. Guys it is a DAO hybrid the weight you feel is the striker. Simple test with empty gun rack the slide and pull the trigger notice the weight now remove slide and pull the trigger notice the weight. You will see that the weight is indeed in the striker not the sear.
Both the so called "pigtail" spring and the coil springs are needed as the apply force in different directions to the sear. By removing random springs in the sear all you have done is decrease reset reliability and distorted the linear trigger pull.
Read the full patent info to get the straight truth
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5386659.pdf
The truth is there is no real way to create a light pull on a DA that will equal a SA it just wont happen, because the DA needs to either pull back the hammer or the striker. The glock feels light because the striker is preloaded with the action of the slide being racked back which makes it almost a SA. You can polish the sear and even make it break early but you just can not create a SA feel in a DA pistol.
Both the so called "pigtail" spring and the coil springs are needed as the apply force in different directions to the sear. By removing random springs in the sear all you have done is decrease reset reliability and distorted the linear trigger pull.
Read the full patent info to get the straight truth
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5386659.pdf
The truth is there is no real way to create a light pull on a DA that will equal a SA it just wont happen, because the DA needs to either pull back the hammer or the striker. The glock feels light because the striker is preloaded with the action of the slide being racked back which makes it almost a SA. You can polish the sear and even make it break early but you just can not create a SA feel in a DA pistol.
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Ruger Nut
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On 12/16/2011 I was reading on another gun website about the Glock warranty.A member asked about the warranty.I decided to e-mail Glock about the warranty.A CSR,Doug Robinson,replied; "Glocks warranty is for the lifetime of the pistol wheather you are the original owner or not.Glock recommends jacketed bullets and warns against lead bullets." I have copies of the e-mails we sent back and forth.
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Thanx cbr. I tried calling S&W this morning about their warranty but they are closed for the holidays. I looked in my Sigma manual and it reads;"This warranty is effective from the date of purchase and applies to the original owner of any firearm."
Like I stated before,a CSR told me that S&W warrants any firearm from 1989,to be lifetime ,being it used or not original owner.
Wow CBR that is a great explanation. However, I am the guy that has done everything to his Sigma already. The striker spring does dot really affect the trigger weight. Maybe in theory it would. In practical application it does not. Removing the pig tail spring takes about 1/2 - 1 lb off. Replacing the other spring in the sear with a spring of less tension or removing it all together reduces the trigger weight considerably. I tested mine with a fish scale with the spring, 8lbs, without the spring, 4.5 lbs. everything mirror polished and lubed up with a high quality lube 3.8lbs.
I tried repacing the striker spring as well before i did all the other stuff. that took it down to 8 lbs which is great. after the gun is fired 200 times the trigger will not reset. If the remove the sear spring and the remaining spring is not in that indentation perfect you may have some trigger reseting problems. If it is in there just right, and its not hard to do, just look at it, it fine for thousands and thousands of rounds. Mine has not failed to reset since i did it over 10,000 rounds ago. I have almost 20K thru mine.
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