Stainless Steel Guide rod

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I am assuming that everyone is satisfied with their SS guide rods. No issues to report?

Thanks.

Bill
 
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I'd love to get a SS guide rod for my SD9VE, where do you recommend?
 
I have read a lot of posts about how great they are and to get them from Galloway but I was curious if anyone has experienced any issues with them.

Bill
 
Satisfied with mine. I got the stock weight (well, Galloway says it's 17 lbs, S&W says it's 18 lbs) and I'm thinking about ordering the 20 lb assembly for my SD9VE, just to see how it performs. It's not like they are hard to change out as needed.
 
got mine at galloway, 17 lb. as for function cant tell any difference it works great. i went with the SS rod, because i didint care for the polymer. Like GKC said an easy swap
 
Hummm
$ 30.00 for a part that performs good like it comes from S&W? No thanks.
Do I like the plastic thingy? No not really but $ 30.00 is a lot of money for a $ 299.00 gun, don't ya think?
 
Hummm
$ 30.00 for a part that performs good like it comes from S&W? No thanks.
Do I like the plastic thingy? No not really but $ 30.00 is a lot of money for a $ 299.00 gun, don't ya think?

I was wondering if the SS guide rod/spring replacement was really necessary? My SD9VE seems to run fine as it came from the factory. Is the stock guide rod prone to wear/breakage?

A lot of folks make this change, along with the Apex spring kit and Trigger. Seems like an add'l. $105 spent on something that already works (for me anyway). And doesn't some of this void the warranty? Just asking, for my own curiosity...:rolleyes:
 
I was wondering if the SS guide rod/spring replacement was really necessary? My SD9VE seems to run fine as it came from the factory. Is the stock guide rod prone to wear/breakage?

A lot of folks make this change, along with the Apex spring kit and Trigger. Seems like an add'l. $105 spent on something that already works (for me anyway). And doesn't some of this void the warranty? Just asking, for my own curiosity...:rolleyes:

Not sure about the warranty, but "SD" stands for self defense. As a "recovering attorney" I would really pity any poor soul these days who shoots someone with a gun that's been modified.
 
...but $ 30.00 is a lot of money for a $ 299.00 gun, don't ya think?

No, I don't. The gun may not be expensive, compared to others, but that doesn't mean (IMO) that it isn't worth spending some additional money on to make it more "personal."

I was wondering if the SS guide rod/spring replacement was really necessary? My SD9VE seems to run fine as it came from the factory. Is the stock guide rod prone to wear/breakage?

A lot of folks make this change, along with the Apex spring kit and Trigger. Seems like an add'l. $105 spent on something that already works (for me anyway). And doesn't some of this void the warranty? Just asking, for my own curiosity...:rolleyes:

The steel guide rod isn't necessary...I like steel versus plastic, but that's personal preference. There may be some instances of the plastic assembly failing, but I can't recall reading any...and even steel parts can fail.

Changing the guide rod isn't going to void the warranty, and it's easily changed back to the stock assembly if you need to send the gun in. Neither will changing the sights, the take down lever, or adding grip sleeves void the warranty.

Modifying the fire control group very likely will void the warranty, if S&W is aware that it was done.

Not sure about the warranty, but "SD" stands for self defense. As a "recovering attorney" I would really pity any poor soul these days who shoots someone with a gun that's been modified.

There might be an argument to be made if someone lightened the trigger...and this question has been debated a lot...but I can't see it being an issue at all over sights, recoil guide rods, take down levers, or grip sleeves.
 
ditto1958
Not sure about the warranty, but "SD" stands for self defense. As a "recovering attorney" I would really pity any poor soul these days who shoots someone with a gun that's been modified.
Uuuuhhhh.... I did let a gunsmith modify my sd9 on the trigger. Do you recommend not to use this gun for self defense anymore? The gunsmith didn't tell me.

In a home invasion situation (I live in Texas), when I use my modified sd9 for self defense, could I face charges based on the triggerjob?
 
Not sure about the warranty, but "SD" stands for self defense. As a "recovering attorney" I would really pity any poor soul these days who shoots someone with a gun that's been modified.

Can you show me precedence for your concerns?
 
In a home invasion situation (I live in Texas), when I use my modified sd9 for self defense, could I face charges based on the triggerjob?

Texas has the castle doctrine, and is one of the more reasonable and rational states when it comes to gun laws (open carry notwithstanding.) This question has been debated a lot on this and other forums, with the contention being that an overzealous prosecutor would attempt to characterize you as someone with wanton disregard for safety, since you modified your handgun to make it "unsafe."

I can't recall any situation where that has been used...and in Texas, if you are in your home, and the shooting is in defense of you or your family, I doubt it would even be a question. If it ever was a question, I'd think it would arise if there was any question of intent to shoot...as in a negligent discharge, or if a child got your gun.

I won't modify the fire control group on my SD9VE, not because of any potential legal concerns, but for three reasons:

1) I don't want to (potentially) invalidate the warranty.
2) I like a heavier trigger on a gun with no safety.
3) I don't want to (possibly) induce malfunctions.
 
I won't modify the fire control group on my SD9VE, not because of any potential legal concerns, but for three reasons:

1) I don't want to (potentially) invalidate the warranty.
2) I like a heavier trigger on a gun with no safety.
3) I don't want to (possibly) induce malfunctions.

This I agree with 100%!!! If there ever was a need for me to use my SD40-VE in a defensive situation, the last thing I need is some parasite attorney using the fact that the trigger was modified to be easier to fire. They could try and turn it around on you quicker than a green berry through a sick goose! My trigger will stay stock. It has lightened up and smoothed out a little bit on its own from use. You have to protect yourself in more ways than one...

L8R,
Matt
 
As far as the guide rod goes. . . If you somehow manage to bend the stainless replacement, you gun is down for the count. The plastic one will be more forgiving if it takes a hit. Not too likely to happen but that's one of the reasons the M9 has a plastic guide rod.
 
I looked into the heaver spring 20lb cause someone said it would help recoil & muzzle flip but could not get a consciences here on that so I put that $30 on more ammo :)
 
As far as the guide rod goes. . . If you somehow manage to bend the stainless replacement, you gun is down for the count. The plastic one will be more forgiving if it takes a hit. Not too likely to happen but that's one of the reasons the M9 has a plastic guide rod.

I don't know most, much less all, but it's hard to imagine a scenario in actual use where the guide rod would be bent. There are, however, lots of examples of plastic guide rods (in many polymer pistols, not specifically the SDVE series) showing signs of wear and stress. I would be much more concerned about a plastic guide rod breaking than I would a steel rod.

Granted, there are those who maintain that the plastic guide rod would break and prevent greater damage to the slide, frame, or barrel, where a steel guide rod wouldn't. I've never read any study which proved that a plastic guide rod was better than a plastic one...there may be such studies, but if so you'd think as much as this gets discussed, those studies would be published here. I think the issue is cost reduction, not improved function.
 
What type of guide rod (plastic or steel) does the M&P line come with?
 
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