If things get bad and things get worse this is my plan. Please comment on my weapons and tell us yours

[Weimar]

Remember in Vietnam what happened to villagers who refused to relocate?

Always have a Plan B (unless you are really old or in very poor health).

Understand, although I'm 64, so you must be really old to remember vietnam.

The point is, that folks always talk about bugging out - being a refuge is the worst thing you can do.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

One of the things that they mentioned was the LDS practice of keeping a two-year supply of food on hand for Hard Times.

The leader of the group told me a story about a friend of his who was out of work and who came to him to borrow money to buy groceries.

The leader asked his friend "What about your two year supply?" The friend replied "I can't touch that that's for Hard Times."
The leader replied "What do you think these are?"

My neighbor was LDS and part of his garage looked like a market.

So I did the same and kept six month supply of groceries plus a freezer full of wild game.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

Understand, although I'm 64, so you must be really old to remember vietnam.

The point is, that folks always talk about bugging out - being a refuge is the worst thing you can do.

I’m not sure where you at but people stay put for hurricane, tornado, forest fires, floods and other disasters and they die.

You do know the Marines, Navy and Air Force was in Vietnam until April 30, 1975? 50 years ago last Wednesday.

 

[Eric300]

That you, Hank Jr?

You bet! Thank you for knowing. I can skin a buck and run a trotline, too.....

 

[Trooper224]

The first rule of having a plan is, you don't talk about the plan.

 

[djohns6]

Secret decoder rings for all family members . Yes , they do exist .

 

[judgecrater]

May we assume you have holsters for everyone?

What about the means by which to carry additional ammo?

Have you considered night vision or other means to gain info about your surroundings discreetly?

Is everyone comfortable handling all of the weapons and the various manuals of arms?

Exactly. Are they all proficient shooters? Food and water is pretty important too. Shelter?

 

[Capt29]

Just got to say this:
If we ever have "the event", all sorts of things are going to go wrong. Preplanning may not be relevant. Going a distance to a secure place may well not work out, minimum load out will be the order of the day. Having thousands of rounds of anything will be useless if you have to abandon them or cannot secure them. Food stores have the same limitation.
My vehicle is an old Dodge power wagon, barley newer than the WWII weapons carrier it was derived from. all it needs to run is gas and air-no computers. Carries a big load, has a top and a heater.
Good selection of food.
Weapons: Ruger 10/22 in 22 WMR and one in 22LR, a CZ 452 bolt rifle/scope in both calibers scoped, Keltec handgun(s) in 22 WMR and 22LR (suppressed) Ammo is easy to pack and a lot of it fits in a compact space.
The 22 WMR is not a substitute for an AR, but it will own the real estate for up to 250 meters, anyone farther than that, I won't care about. If I need anything else, I can acquire it.
In the "event" small game will be hunted out almost instantly, ditto for deer. Ability to grow or otherwise obtain food will be paramount.
If I cannot get to my secure location, I can "bug in" as I live rural and have secured. my home to a reasonable degree.
"A half assed plan, violently executed, is far better than one debated to a consensus"
G.S. Patton
Hopefully the current administration will make these preparations moot.

 

[shunka]

Just a thought….
Those who plan to hunt for meat, have you thought about the many hundreds or thousands of other folk
Who will be swarming your area with the same idea?

Our “no trespassing” are not very effective now, doubt they will be more effective in case of “an event”

Ah Capt29 already covered that!

 

[.38SuperMan]

Do any of your family members require medications? Did you stockpile them? How about emergency first aid supplies, clotting agent, tourniquets, sterile bandages and etc? Water purification filter system, solar generator and lights? How about money and matches. How about a way to stay warm in the winter, coats and extra clothes, propane heater and stove with extra propane. Can your family build a campfire? How about disposal of waste?

My wife and I are prepared for a disaster. We’re not so concerned about an invasion but more concerned about a natural disaster where our food and meds would be disrupted for a while. We’re prepared and rest easy knowing we can survive relatively comfortably for an extended period. It’s just smart to be ready for the unexpected.

 

[pharmer]

......... It’s just smart to be ready for the unexpected.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Except when stuff goes South, it does in a violent, disorganized and chaotic way. The lies told by "the adults in charge" become apparent immediately as they are first into the lifeboats. Like it said on my old mini-fridge: "Yaonyaown." Joe

 

[DixieRanger]

This is going to be kind of a long post.

Before I say anything else as another poster mentioned the first rule of prepping is not to tell people you're prepping.

Second, I'm not LDS but a long time ago I worked with five or six guys who were and I learned a very valuable lesson from them.

I've mentioned this before, while I was working with the guys they talked about their faith to me I don't know that I would say that they were trying to evangelize me but they were talking about what it meant to be LDS.

One of the things that they mentioned was the LDS practice of keeping a two-year supply of food on hand for Hard Times.

The leader of the group told me a story about a friend of his who was out of work and who came to him to borrow money to buy groceries.

The leader asked his friend "What about your two year supply?" The friend replied "I can't touch that that's for Hard Times."
The leader replied "What do you think these are?"

I was maybe 19 years old when he told me that story I'm 59 years old now and that lesson has stuck with me for my entire life.

I'm trying very hard to stay away from religion. This is just background information and it speaks to my mindset. My wife and I both believe that we're living in the end times.

Whether or not we're right that affects how we view the world. As briefly as I can possibly say it we believe that the world is going to go through some "Hard Times". So whatever preparations we're making we're making bearing that mind.

I'm pretty sure I posted this before. During the grocery panic I told my wife to take note of the things that were difficult for us to get and if it ever eased up to stock up on those things. That is essentially what she did and continues to do.


The statistics on death are very easy to predict. They haven't changed since the beginning of time. 10 out of 10 people die.

 

[cowboy77845]

You need more boolits. where is the 22LR revolver/pistol/rifle? I consider that a "must have".

 

[.38SuperMan]

We live in a small and close community with friends that will ban together. Most of us are native to the area. Most of our friends are hunters, farmers and gun enthusiasts that I would have no reservations about their survival skills and are the kind that will help their friends. There’s a different kind of relationship between natives of the area in a small southern town. These people have proven over and over they’ll step forward and help their friends and neighbors.

I’ve thought many times about what would happen if civilization fell apart. Money wouldn’t mean much and gold would be worthless. How would you pay for something using gold, slice off a piece and trade it for food. The new money would be food, medication, bullets and guns. People would trade the essentials to stay alive. Everything else would be unimportant.

If you really want to be prepared prepare for an EMP, electromagnetic pulse.

Oh and one last thing to pick up in case of nuclear fallout, a bottle of potassium iodide.

 

[DunRanull]

Here in St Petersburg I have .22 rifle, don't need more as government will protect us if Nemetskiy return.. More concerned about starvation than guns, so food is priority like 1941-45. God bless great Tovarishch Stalin!

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

The first rule of having a plan is, you don't talk about the plan.

What Plan?

 

[jeffrefrig]

Feets don't fail me now! But, at 68 and every joint in my body failing me, there's only one good joint left...the one in my trigger finger. Or there about.

 

[A10]

We live in a small and close community with friends that will ban together. Most of us are native to the area. Most of our friends are hunters, farmers and gun enthusiasts that I would have no reservations about their survival skills and are the kind that will help their friends. There’s a different kind of relationship between natives of the area in a small southern town. These people have proven over and over they’ll step forward and help their friends and neighbors.

I’ve thought many times about what would happen if civilization fell apart. Money wouldn’t mean much and gold would be worthless. How would you pay for something using gold, slice off a piece and trade it for food. The new money would be food, medication, bullets and guns. People would trade the essentials to stay alive. Everything else would be unimportant.

If you really want to be prepared prepare for an EMP, electromagnetic pulse.

Oh and one last thing to pick up in case of nuclear fallout, a bottle of potassium iodide.

Don't forget alcohol. One could trade Everclear for just about anything in a time of need. Medicinal, disinfectant, and entertainment all in one container!

 

[.38SuperMan]

Don't forget alcohol. One could trade Everclear for just about anything in a time of need. Medicinal, disinfectant, and entertainment all in one container!

Enough alcohol any it won’t matter what happens

Another thing to consider is communication. Cell phones would probably be worthless and broadcast tv and radio, who knows. I have a portable CB radio and I’m working on my ham license. The ham license is mostly because I’ve always been interested in it and would like to get back into it. But it’s a very good thing in an emergency.

 

[14daMoney]

Please note, here I am only talking about weapons, not food supplies, water supplies, medical supplies, etc., logistics and so on.

My family is made up of:
Males 4:
Me
two sons over thirty
and my daughter's husband
Females 5:
My wife
my daughter
3 grandchildren
my car
Land Rover Defender 110 4x4x + 100 liters of extra fuel

Jokingly, but unfortunately very close to reality, my survival firearms kit is composed as follows, ready in 4 bags
and 9 backpacks

Already prepared shelter in a rough place with thick vegetation source and semi-buried container.

None of the weapons in this list are full auto, they will be taken from the suppressed enemy taking care to take all the same weapons.

9 tactical vests
n. 9 Glock 19x pistols + 45 magazines
n. 4 revolvers 629 4" + 4 boxes of ammunition x 50 rounds
n. 5 revolvers 60 2" + 5 boxes of ammunition x 50 rounds
n. 2 Benelli 121M1 rifles + 2 cartridge belts with 60 buckshot and 20 slug balls
n. 6 Steyr Aug A3 assault rifles + 60 magazines
n. 1 Steyr Aug A3 24" HBAR assault rifle with bipod and Leupold MK4 + 10 magazines
n. 9 Spyderco Police knives
n. 9 Victorinox multipurpose knife

Please note, here I am only talking about weapons, not food supplies, water supplies, medical supplies, etc., logistics and so on.

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I'm all for being prepared; but, this screams of paranoia to me . . . .

Oh ya, there's really no need to wait until you can see the whites of their eyes. Besides, if they are that close things get really ugly fast . . . . .

Better to just reach out and touch someone - - -