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12-12-2009, 10:28 AM
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Blackhawk CQC Serpa Holster
I am considering a Blackhawk CGC Serpa holster for my new Sigma 9VE. What I want to know, is if it is tough on a pistol's finish. I heard good things in general but no comments on abrasiveness.
I would welcome any any pro's or con's on this holster. Thank You, Eric
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12-12-2009, 11:39 AM
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While I cannot comment on how much it affects the pistol finish, I will say that I cannot recommend the Serpa as a concealed carry or open carry holster. It is too bulky, and sticks out too far for most people to conceal under anything but a heavy jacket, sweatshirt, or coat.
In addition, you run the risk of the mechanism getting clogged with dirt and debris, which renders you unable to draw your weapon. I have personally witnessed a Serpa get jammed with a small rock during a training class, and if you search a couple of gun forums, you'll read similar stories. Many handgun training schools, such as Gray Guns (IIRC), no longer allow the Serpa to be used at their schools.
A bunch of the guys I know, myself included, jumped on the Serpa bandwagon for "soft uniform" use when it was first introduced several years ago. As a result of further experiences and research, most of us have ditched the Serpa and gone back to leather OWBs.
IMO, the Serpa should only be used as a casual use range holster.
If you want to try OWB carry, invest in one of the traditional style (aka "pancake") OWB holsters. Every holster manufacturer produces some variation of this classic design. They're leather instead of plastic, can be found for about the same price as a Serpa (~$40), and work much better at keeping the gun tucked in close to your body.
Holsters by RGrizzle
http://lobogunleather.com/mode...ancake_style_holster
etc.
If you need the retention of a Serpa, get a thumb break on the pancake. That way, there is no mechanical component to fail, jamming the gun in the holster.
If you want the quick on and off of the Serpa paddle, get a pancake with belt snaps.
K&D Holsters | Custom Gun Leather and Shooting Accessories
http://lobogunleather.com/mode...loop_belt_attachment
etc.
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12-13-2009, 06:24 PM
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I don't know. i use both. Blackhawk is a good company
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12-13-2009, 10:22 PM
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Serpa? Nice idea, but still a bit gimmicky. I looked at them for my Sigma, and still went to a Fobus. Retention there is good, but it does not have that latch thingy.
If you are concerned about retention, get a blue-gun and put it in a Fobus or some other kydex retention holster and get one of your buds to try and take it from you. Then try the same with the Serpa. No diff.
I think of Serpas versus other retention holsters - - - - just the same way I was told when they gave me my first parachute. The rigger said, "Mister, I packed this 'chute myself, and it is foolproof. Just remember however, it is not DAMN-fool proof"!
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12-14-2009, 02:10 AM
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Fobus break to easy. My Blackhawk been bended up a couple times but never broke. Plus, When knocking down a door serving a search warrant, Fobus you have to like almost break it to remove the gun. Blackhawk is easy just a push.
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12-14-2009, 03:24 AM
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My Sigma in my Fobus paddle holster works great. A quick motion to draw is all it takes...
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12-14-2009, 07:19 AM
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I have a Blackhawk. Good for the range, but I don't use it for carry. I agree with the above poster. Sticks out a bit too far and a leather holster is more "bendable", so it sticks closer to the body.
For those who want the retention device on a carry holster, Bianchi came out with a new nylon holster that has a lock device inside it, like the Blackhawk. They go for about $40. Midway has them on their website. I have other Bianchi holsters and they are well made and comfortable.
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12-14-2009, 07:56 PM
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It's certainly not a concealment holster, but using the belt option vs. paddle, it is a very good holster. I have one for both my S&W M&P and my HK P30. As to finish, all holsters, cases, etc. cause some wear. It's a tool... it shows wear with use. I think a little wear gives a handgun character. Who wants a safe queen unless it's a rare collectible.
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12-14-2009, 08:23 PM
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I have been using the Serpa for my MP 40 about three years never seen a mark on it. However I got one for my J frame Model 60, it has put some wear marks on the J. But not all of the j frames are exactly the same shape, I had to dremel the serpa a little to get it in. I will say I like the Blackhawks, had no problem concealing it in the winter time under a coat, jean jacket, or any of my waist length apparel. I must admit leather is a tad more comfortable and looks cool!
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