Model 6454, 1 of 10 (UPDATE 8/2/2015) Now 2 of 10

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Here's one you don't see very often. This is a model 6454. This gun is a combo of 2nd and 3rd generation auto loader parts that were put together for the RSR group. I recently had it lettered and was very happy with the details. I knew this one was uncommon but didn't think the total number was only 10 of this model. At least that is how I interpret the letter. Now I just need to find a box for it but I won't hold my breath.

I have posted pics of this gun before but here's some more with the letter. Thanks for letting me share. :)

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And the letter:

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UPDATE: I never thought I'd be updating this thread in this way but thanks to the forum and a wise gentleman looking to find more information about his gun, I now have another 6454 to add to my meager collection. I normally wouldn't spend the money to have a duplicate gun but I felt like this one warranted an exception based on it's rarity. It's cool to have another 1 of 10 gun to make it 2 of 10. :)

Let's see who can pick out the small differences in the two pistols, although the it's tough to tell in the pictures. Barrel lengths are the same and currently both are wearing non-factory hogue grips. I think the small variations demonstrate how these guns were likely assembled with more special attention than your typical production model gun. I would appreciate any additional thoughts on the subject. Here's some additional pics.



New to me 6454:

 
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Thanks for the replies. These don't come around very often so when I see them then I do all I can to snag them. I know they aren't really old guns but they are about as rare as they come with these very, very low production numbers.
 
That is a great looking S&W you have there! From the pictures it looks more like a 6" barrel than a 5".
 
Texasboy said:
I have one of the RSR6454 1 of 10 are they valuable
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Sent you a Private Message. Also, if you see the first page of my factory letter above you will see the serial number range that your gun should fall under.

I would love to see a picture and know where your gun falls in the serial number range. I can make a fairly close guess, within 10 numbers, as to what it might be. :)
 
As you requested Jerry, another it is. Thread updated. A big thank you to Texasboy, aka Richard, for letting this one go to a good home back with his sibling in my safe.

Also, a huge "THANK YOU" to the forum. How else would cool guns like this get into the hands of average joes like me that are grateful to enjoy them. It's reasons like this one that make it a no-brainer to be a contributing member.
 
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As I am newish to these forums, this is the first time I have seen this thread. It seems like you left us hanging a bit -- you wanted us to try and notice the slight differences between the two but then never told us what they are?

Errr, wait, you just recently added the second one so we need some time to find them, I guess. :)

First difference I noticed is that the Hogue grip is not the same, one has the straight edge while the other pooches around the mag release. Also, almost looks as if one has machine checkering on the front strap while the other does not, and one has the red "fire" dot and the other lacks it.

Almost looks as if the frame has a darker hue on the one, but that could be a picture thing more than reality.

Neat stuff here!
 
While it's a nice looking gun, to me it was just a way for S&W to use up their inventory of 645 parts in a newer gun,w/o having to throw them away since they quit making the 645. Can you imagine if GM found some brand new unused 5 year old 6 speed transmissions & installed them in new vehicles which would normally have 8 speed transmissions? That wouldn't go over too well. No special value to me. Just another nice 4506. GARY
 
To the above poster... I am sure that Chevy could sell a very small run of a last generation rear wheel drive version of a Monte Carlo with a brand new old stock 5 year old Vette motor, backed up with a 6 speed from that year, and sell it easy, easier if they numbered them, and at a premium if they know how to market them to the right consumer.....

Very nice and rare find, and congratulations.
 
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N4KVE said:
While it's a nice looking gun, to me it was just a way for S&W to use up their inventory of 645 parts in a newer gun,w/o having to throw them away since they quit making the 645. Can you imagine if GM found some brand new unused 5 year old 6 speed transmissions & installed them in new vehicles which would normally have 8 speed transmissions? That wouldn't go over too well. No special value to me. Just another nice 4506. GARY
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You are spot on with the first sentence but the car analogy is just plain wrong when establishing value. There are tons of older cars and guns that are considered "transitional" models that are highly coveted by collectors. These guns are pushing 25 years so they're not really considered modern anymore and they aren't some mass produced item like many of todays plastic guns and vehicles.

The value is in the fact that if you or someone else wanted to buy this model than you'd have to find one of the 10 that exist. And up until a couple years ago or whenever it was when I originally started this thread, this model was unknown.

Of course from a utilitarian perspective you are correct it is no different that any other 45 semi-auto that reliably throws lead and made mostly of stainless steel. Having said that, you couldn't get me to take 5 Glocks in trade for one of these. I can head to Cal Ranch and buy a dozen of those tomorrow if I had to. :)
 
I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember, but at that time when S&W came out with the 4 digit model #s, they were introducing a different variant every week by combining different parts & pieces from other models they made. It was crazy back then. And I have to say that working for the largest gun dealer in Florida with 8 stores, & 45 gun shows a year selling 400 pieces a show, we would only pay, & sell the gun for the going rate of a standard 4506. Should early 4506's with the 645 trigger guard get special status too? And I keep going back to cars where I worked for 30+ years. A guy with a "rare" Road Runner claims his car was 1 of 12 built. well maybe with the options in that specific car, but if he had a FM radio instead of an AM radio, than it would be 1 of 300 built. I'm sorry, but these little differencies don't do it for me. Again, as nice as any nice 4506. To me because S&W decided to make so many variants back then with existing pieces doesn't make them more special, or valuable today in my business. GARY
 
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I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember, but at that time when S&W came out with the 4 digit model #s, they were introducing a different variant every week by combining different parts & pieces from other models they made. It was crazy back then. And I have to say that working for the largest gun dealer in Florida with 8 stores, & 45 gun shows a year selling 400 pieces a show, we would only pay, & sell the gun for the going rate of a standard 4506. Should early 4506's with the 645 trigger guard get special status too? And I keep going back to cars where I worked for 30+ years. A guy with a "rare" Road Runner claims his car was 1 of 12 built. well maybe with the options in that specific car, but if he had a FM radio instead of an AM radio, than it would be 1 of 300 built. I'm sorry, but these little differencies don't do it for me. Again, as nice as any nice 4506. To me because S&W decided to make so many variants back then with existing pieces doesn't make them more special, or valuable today in my business. GARY
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I suppose we don't have to agree, but you're kind of buzz kill on my thread sir. :(

And so far you've added no value to it as far as I can tell.
 
Hey it's a nice gun, but to someone who buys & sells guns all day long for the largest dealer in Florida, you're right. It has no extra value. But it's a nice gun, so enjoy it. GARY
 
Anyone else have an opinion? Preferably not related to value as that wasn't the point of sharing my guns on this thread.
 
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