Late Serial # 380 Bodyguard.. Do they still have problems?

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Hey guys, picked up a bodyguard a few days ago at academy and am starting to wonder if I'll regret it :(.. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, since I couldn't find ammo til yesterday, but I've been obsessively reading the forums and getting a kinda bad impression. Now the pistol I got has a very late serial # (KAJxxxx) and I was just wondering if everybody is still having firing pin, etc.. issues with the latest guns? I hope I don't have to sell it and get an LCP since I really like the design and feel of it, but I want to trust my CCW. Most of the complaints I see are for earlier numbers (EAA, EAB, EBB) so is this a sign of improvement from S&W? Should I worry about my gun?
 
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I have had two BG380 and both were good on firing, I still have one of the two and no problems. I do not dry fire mine. Mine is a later # also. I believe it maybe still hit or miss on problems though. Fire it enjoy it and go from there
 
Mine is an EAF serial number. Only issue I've ever had is the laser button on left side stopped working, but I don't care.

I carry mine regularly. Great little pistol.
 
My firing pin broke. Serial # EBZ .. Test fired by S&W after manufacture on 02/20/13.
So 3 years into BG380 production firing pin breakage and lite primer strikes still are there. Really pathetic imo.
RV4Driver has done some interesting digging into the lite primer strikes issue. His investigation does raise another question for me though.. Why is it that the BG380 is so susceptible to this issue? To my knowledge it is not an issue with other 380's of this genre. Why is it with the BG380?
See his info here:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/307805-bodyguard-380-love-list.html

It really seems like it is just pure luck whether you get one that is great or one that is a pain in the a$$.
Some of the first ones out the door are reported to be reliable, there seems to be no rhyme or reason.

Some help might be coming, It is just a shame that it is not from S&W. Frankly it is pretty obvious they just refuse to admit some of the problems.

But look here. Galloway seems to be ready to step in and take advantage of S&W's head in the sand response.

Bodyguard 380 Performance | Galloway Precision
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Good to see somebody is going to offer a new firing pin. It seems like some people absolutely love their pistols and run 1000's of rounds with no problems, and some break within a few magazines full and are trouble until the owner gives up and sells it. Hopefully mine ends up being one of the former! If not, I guess I'll either hock it and get a ruger or a sig or try the galloway upgrade :-/
 
UPDATE: took the bodyguard out for the first shooting session today. Ran 50 rds of fmj federal through it and it performed flawlessly! No malfunctions of any kind, dead accurate for a pocket pistol, the laser was dead on right out of the box and I even felt pretty good about the much malaigned trigger! I'm very much in love at this point. Well see how it eats another 100 and ill decide whether I trust it fully! So far so good!!
 
New Bodyguard 380 Report

This seems like as good of an existing tread as any to post this ... a New Bodyguard 380 Report.

Since I am picky when purchasing a new weapon, I evaluated the top three .380 subcompact concealed carry pistols with much scrutiny. After months of comparison and actually firing many rounds through all 3 candidate .380's, I choose the S&W Bodyguard 380 as my wallet holster CC weapon for a few personal reasons (as always open to individual tastes and debate). I own several S&W pistols and revolvers and have so for almost 40 years, so I must admit a bias toward S&W handguns in general. There is still a little rush that occurs in my brain anytime I procure a new weapon, and this was no exception ... maybe I'm a gun shopping addict!

Anyway, I brought my new Bodyguard 380 home, thoroughly cleaned and lightly oiled the weapon as the manual delineates on the four points on the slide, and immediately took it out to the range with 11 boxes of different brands of 380 ammo. Maybe that may seem like overkill, but the consensus of many reports and forums I've read made it seem that generally, small semi-autos can be picky concerning ammo. I wanted to test this pistol to from A to Z and break it in before I could believe it trustworthy to perform for me in an emergency. I also purchased 3 additional S&W brand 380 magazines, a black leather Talon Wallet Holster (Nice!), and a DeSantis inside waistband Belt Holster.

On to my new Bodyguard 380 experience ...

Once at the range I setup paper targets, 8 inch circular at 20 feet, the maximum distance I think I might ever need to use this weapon. I listed all of my ammo brands and specs in a notebook, and took to loading mags and getting shooting. I was fortunate one of the six outdoor ranges entirely to myself. Ear and eye protection in place, I proceeded to the shooting line ready to have some fun ... unfortunately, my new Bodyguard was not so eager to please. I assumed target shooting position and slowly pulled on the trigger for the first time. The trigger was very heavy and had a long pull. Even though I had shot two other Bodyguard 380s a few times less than a month ago, I was surprised at the trigger resistance and travel, at least 8-9 lbs and longer than I remembered.

Then the surprises really started, I continued to slowly squeeze the trigger until it was completely flush with the trigger housing and the trigger return spring was fully compressed, no hammer release, no firing pin strike, no click, and no boom! I slowly released the trigger forward to rest position and with about 1/4 inch of travel remaining in the cycle ... Boom! I had never felt a semi-auto fire like that before and it was tad unsettling. The bullet hit about 3 inches right of bullseye, almost perfect elevation, the casing did eject and the next round chambered from the magazine. Obviously this wasn't an ammo issue right? So with an even firmer grip on the pistol (there is not much real estate to grasp on any subcompact 380), I aimed and slowly pulled the trigger again with the exact same results, no fire with the trigger completely compressed and the pin strike occured during the release of the trigger. A little disturbed by this action, I ejected the magazine and emptied the chamber. Maybe a very small chance it could be ammo or magazine related?

I then filled a different magazine with another brand of ammo and popped it into the gun (as others have reported, my magazines were rubbing slightly on the release button and required a light butt slam to engage the magazine). I repeated trigger pull process another 6 times and had nearly the same results during each cycle. Each time the gun fired when the trigger was closer to the fully retracted trigger position, but still after being fully depressed and during the return to rest position. S&W warns owners about the dangers of staging a trigger in the manual, but this pistol seemed to be designed around staging! All rounds cycled cleanly and amazingly they were all somewhere on the 8 inch target considering I was getting unnerved by the WhackAMole firing trigger mechanism.

I considered just packing it up and going home to contact S&W concerning service on the pistol, which would be a first in my experience with brand new S&W guns. Since no one else was on the range and I strictly kept it pointed at the berm downrange, I decided to continue and try to run some more ammo through my new favorite "try to guess when I will fire" gun. Well, the results were honestly amazing and my persistence paid off. With over 500 rounds on hand, I continuously fed the Bodyguard round after from the 4 magazines rotating the various brands of ammo without any recording of FTE or FTF. If it didn't cycle, I just manually cleared and re-chambered. After about 10 magazines full (6 per magazine) the trigger slowly reached the point of breaking prior to full travel, at about 80% of the travel from rest position to fully retracted. After another 75 or so rounds, it had become a very predictable and regular trigger. It was still heavy and long, but after cycling the weapons through about 150 rounds, the trigger was now regular and solid ... no more surprise ignitions! I wasn't aiming at all by this time and had no notion concerning its accuracy at 20 feet, but just was happy that it was going bang regularly and consistently.

So, I retreated to my original plan of recording ammo performance regarding FTF or FTE, and during the next 300 rounds learned that this Bodyguard does love some brands and types of ammo and hates some of the others. I don't want to try and tell you what works and what doesn't, because you should discover this for yourself in your own weapon, regardless of manufacturer, make, model, caliber, etc. If you are going to depend on a pistol to possibly save your life or the life of a loved one, go ahead and spend the money to figure out what is reliable in your weapon. My Bodyguard 380 does seem a bit like me, more biased toward the good stuff in life. It's ammo appetite is selective toward the more premium rounds, which obviously are the more expensive ammo. I did find one lower end brand that cycled regularly and has become my designated practice round of choice. Accuracy was amazing for such a short little barrel and tiny grips. I was able to keep all rounds on the 8 inch target when emptying a 6 round magazine rapid fire at 20 feet. When aiming and slowly firing, 4 inch groups were not irregular. I am not a NRA gunslinger or TopShot contestant!

I had no other issues to report after feeding well over 500 rounds though my new Bodyguard, it is firing like a piston in a Maserati. After I returned home, I broke the pistol down and thoroughly cleaned quite a mess out of the gun. It was funky as could be inside from all the various ammo I put through it. I have not experienced any problems as others forum posters have reported: no take-down lever problem, no laser issues, no slide issues, no FTF when using specific brands of ammo, no FTEs. I am happy with my purchase and would buy it again if circumstance required. In my opinion and experience, no firearm is perfect and every weapon I have owned has it's model specific particularities. I highly recommend this little beast when asked for my opinion concerning a subcompact semi-auto. As far as the effectiveness debate of the .380 round ... my opinion is that shot placement is everything in most any caliber. I know I surely don't want a .380 round hitting me anywhere! Heck, look what a .22 did to Robert Kennedy! Hope this non professional review helps someone when considering purchasing a subcompact CC weapon.
 
Bodyguard 380 problems

I have a late serial # bodyguard 380, KAH which within the first 200 rounds or so experienced the roll pin in front of the trigger guard working it's way out about 1/4" or so after about 40 rounds. At the 2nd cleaning, the take down lever broke. I have been trying all week to get a shipping label from S&W. They just came off a 2 week vacation.
 
I purchased my BG 380 in early June. The test fire was dated early May and the serial # was ECA. It's had close to 600 rounds through it with no serious problems.

I did have a few FTEs early on but they were with one brand of ammo. As I recall, it was 3-4 rounds out of 50. I also check the laser set screw each time I clean the gun to make sure it has worked lose. I tightened one so far and it seems to be holding.

I've probably dry fired 300 - 400 times with no problems so far. After the first few I read of the problem and got some snap caps. No problem with snap caps since I really don't like to dry fire any gun without them.
 
my serial # is ECD

funny how the serial #'s on the bodyguards are all over the place. Bought mine new , test fired July 2013, serial #ECD.
Others have new ones with serial #'s starting with Kaa. whats gives?did they use old frames or skip from ecd to Kaa????
 
OK, mine is serial # kak7xxx. Test fired 7 9/2013. Bought Nov 2013. Came without a MIM barrel, had the standard barrel instead. Ran 100 rounds when I picked it up and had no issues. Fed well and no Fail to ejects. Very accurate considering the short barrel and small grips. Wife hads serial # KAR 2xxx but traded itr for a new Sig P238. Hers also functioned well with no issues, she just liked the Sig better. She can function the slide bertter and she shoots it very well. Just thought I'd add to this list.
 
I bought my Bodyguard .380 last January. No problems in about 100 rounds. I never warmed to the MIM barrel so I ended up selling it.

I am excited about the new M&P Bodyguard .380 that just announced. Essentially the same pistol but without a laser, it has a stainless steel barrel, and it will have a lower MSRP.
 
I got my new Bodyguard 380 a week ago last Friday. Ser# KBDxxxx. Finally got a chance to go to the range yesterday. I'm happy to say that the firearm seemed to perform fine. I did clean it before going to the range as I would do to any new firearm. I shot only 100 rounds and it was flawless. The laser was right on, and the firearm was plenty accurate for what I intend for it's use. I'm very happy with the new 380 Bodyguard, it will do what I want for a pocket pistol. I bought the Disantis "Superfly" pocket holster with the little flap so as not to allow any pocket imprinting. It is light, small, compact, and will be a great addition to the CCW's that I have.
 
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I bought my BG-380 on 06/02/12 and it's SN is EBN8XXX. It's S&W test date was 05/04/12. Other than an abnormal amount of gritty substance adhering to the slide rails (that I removed during my initial teardown, cleaning and lubrication), the pistol seemed of acceptable manufacture. My first range session was on 06/05/12 where I fired 100-rounds of FMJ without incident. My accuracy was nothing spectacular as this was the smallest pistol I had ever fired but everything was on the paper. Two weeks later I took an advanced-carry techniques class using this gun (it was the smallest in size, ammo capacity and caliber in the class). As part of this training we fired over 200 rounds in less than one hour in various self-defense drills, including single and double target, very-close combat and double-tap-plus exercises. I found the little Smith quick to draw and engage from a Galco IWB rig using mostly point shooting (I had brightened the front sight). I had no stoppages or failures during this class and a ninty-three-percent hit rate on target. The long trigger stroke was forgotten when concentrating on getting rounds on target but I was aware the next day of the effort it took to hold onto that small grip by the ache in my hand and fingers (I have some arthritis). Since then I've mounted a Pachmayr grip sleeve that really helps secure the gun in my hand. I have also added Nitesighters dots to the standard sights as a temporary inexpensive substitute for a set of Hy-Viz sights. My other autopistol handguns are all 1911's in .45 ACP, .22TCM, and 9mm and an officers-sized 1911 shares CCW duty with my BG .380. I consider the double-action trigger and slide lock on the BG as necessary to safety on a gun that is sometimes carried in pants or jacket pockets and in the case of female shooters, in a purse. I don't make a practice of venturing in to high-threat areas (had enough of that in Vietnam, thank you) and I feel perfectly secure with the Bodyguard for eighty-percent of my travels and the 1911 for the other twenty-percent. This is not a range gun; that is not it's mission. Train with it to become proficient and exercise it enough to maintain that proficiency, keep it clean and lubed properly and full of good ammo (Hornady Critical Defense is my choice) and let it do it's job.
 
I put 100 rounds through mine today...that makes 300 rounds and no problems...the only thing I don't like is the sights and will be fixing that soon...I carry mine almost every day and love it...shoot yours and decide for yourself...don't go by what other people say
 
Just traded my Bodyguard for a sig 380 auto

OK, mine is serial # kak7xxx. Test fired 7 9/2013. Bought Nov 2013. Came without a MIM barrel, had the standard barrel instead. Ran 100 rounds when I picked it up and had no issues. Fed well and no Fail to ejects. Very accurate considering the short barrel and small grips. Wife hads serial # KAR 2xxx but traded itr for a new Sig P238. Hers also functioned well with no issues, she just liked the Sig better. She can function the slide bertter and she shoots it very well. Just thought I'd add to this list.
I just traded mine in for a Sig also.....loved carrying the BG380,but thats where the love ended. It has a horribly heavy trigger pull, the gun is too small to hold well, and i had several light primer strikes. I could not trust the gun to fire and i was worried about the laser screw coming loose all the time. I also felt that I was at a disadvantage if I ever had to pull out the pistol and try to shoot someone or something with that double action trigger . I now have a gun with a nice smooth lighter trigger and real grips(houge). also have 7+1 capacity. Sorry S&W, but the quality in the Bodyguards is not where it needs to be in my opinion. I paid $410 for it, sold it for 300. I feel lucky
 
I purchased an S&W Bodyguard 380 on March, 2014, Ser# KBDxxxx. it is in S&W for repairing for two weeks now. The magazine would not go in to the magazine well unless you hold in the magazine release button found right after I open the box. ok, I thought it is a new gun; it may need some kind of break in. I fired about 100 rounds at the range. There were some other issues shown, slide never locks open after the last round has been fired, miss-feed and failures to feed on about every second or third shot. Have tried it with different types of ammo. It does the same. Called S&W customer support, it toke 5 days to get return label and have been sent it back to S&W for two weeks, still didn't hear anything from S&W.
 
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