First time at the range with the SW22 Victory. Stove pipe every third round. Fail to eject-half way out with another live round on top. Apparently it wouldn't eject fast enough I guess. I don't know. I think it might be the ammo. Using CCI Mini Mags. MY Ruger 10/22 loves them. I noticed they have a waxey build up on them. I've been using this ammo for years. Never noticed this wax. Do you think this is my problem with the Victory. I cleaned every one of them before I go back to the range. I'm also going to try several different brands. So much for buying the good stuff. I hope this is the problem with the Victory. Very accurate when it worked. Any advice?
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SW22 Victory Issues
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10P8TRIOT
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I've shot approx. 3000 rounds through my Victory. Had lots of problems with bulk ammo. After reading somewhere on the forum that someone uses CCI 22LR SV without any problems I tried them today. Shot approx. 250 rounds without a single ftf or stove pipe. From now on I won't uses anything else. Saving a few bucks on ammo is not worth the frustration of having an unreliable gun.
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I don't own a Victory so I'm not familiar with it. However, I have a Beretta Neos .22lr pistol that will not reliably cycle soft lead .22lr shells. At first It wouldn't cycle them at all. So I started using copper plated bullets and all was good with it. No more malfunctions with them. After a few hundred rounds with the plated bullets it got broken in enough to sort of be reliable with lead bullets. Try some plated bullets in it for awhile to see if things improve. If not I'd say it needs a trip to the gunsmith.
Paul Bernard
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I have ONLY used cci mini mags in my new Victory. CCI Mfg.#0030. the 40 grain round nose, high velosity copper plated ammo. Spoke to S&W customer service and they strongly recommended using copper plated lead round nose HV for flawless operation. I now have 800 rounds through it and not one problem at all. I have no reason to change. This ammo has NO wax build up on it. I have tried other lead round nose in my Ruger 10/22 that had what ever that stuff is on the lead bullet and it consistently jammed. Switched to CCI #0030 and it fires hundreds of rounds at a time with no problems, perfectly. I might eventually try other ammo but for now this stuff is working very well.
Targets Guy
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Never had a problem with CCI mini-mags. My Victory does not like Remington Thunderbolts. When I first got my Victory it would not eject the TAC-22s. After about 1500 rounds it no longer has a problem with TAC-22s.
If the muzzle velocity is at or over 1200 fps I've not had a problem with any .22lr. As noted above the TAC-22s (which are at 1100 fps) are no longer a problem.
If the muzzle velocity is at or over 1200 fps I've not had a problem with any .22lr. As noted above the TAC-22s (which are at 1100 fps) are no longer a problem.
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Loose Victory take down screw problem solved.
Went to the range today with my Victory SW22. After 80 rounds the screw came loose. ( I WAS READY FOR IT). I purchased some rubber "O" rings from Amazon. took out the screw, put on the O ring and put it back in. I shot another 320 rounds and the screw was tighter than ever after shooting. When I got home I took the gun apart for cleaning and the screw was still very tight. I inspected the O ring and it still looked like new. Just wanted to share my discovery with all my fellow Victory owners.
Went to the range today with my Victory SW22. After 80 rounds the screw came loose. ( I WAS READY FOR IT). I purchased some rubber "O" rings from Amazon. took out the screw, put on the O ring and put it back in. I shot another 320 rounds and the screw was tighter than ever after shooting. When I got home I took the gun apart for cleaning and the screw was still very tight. I inspected the O ring and it still looked like new. Just wanted to share my discovery with all my fellow Victory owners.
Well, usually I would tell somebody with your problems to try some CCI Mini Mags.
My .22 Victory eats everything (but I never put Remington or Winchester in my .22s) I feed it.Have you taken your Victory apart and cleaned it since taking it new from the box? Got the slide lubed? If so, I'm thinking maybe a magazine feed problem. Perhaps the lips need to be tweaked a touch. If you have two mags, is it happening with both?
The Mini Mags are great troubleshooting rounds. If they're not working, and you want to eliminate ammo as the problem, I also recommend a box of CCI Standard Velocity. If it doesn't work, it's NOT an ammo problem. Lifetime warranty though.
SW22
Recently purchased SW22 and have had major jamming issues. Using lead bullets that won't seat properly. Have been in contact many times with S&W and they have sent me a return tag. This Sunday I am going to range and keep record of all ammo used and any issues that happen. I see I am not only one with jamming issues.
Recently purchased SW22 and have had major jamming issues. Using lead bullets that won't seat properly. Have been in contact many times with S&W and they have sent me a return tag. This Sunday I am going to range and keep record of all ammo used and any issues that happen. I see I am not only one with jamming issues.
WElcome to the Forum WayneKelleysr. Those Remington and Thunderbolts brands are not very good ammo at all. They are both very dirty to use as well as unreliable also. Pesonally I can not think of any make or model of gun that I dislike bad enough to ever use them in.
Problem got worse
After tying the CCI's I switched to Aguila Super Extra and Federal HV Match Gold Medal. They all failed ejection. It seems like the ejector can't remove the spent round fast enough for the next round. I've had all kinds of issues. The spent round is half way out when the second round winds on top of the spent round. Both magazines have the same results. I'm lucky to fire 2 rounds in a row. Every other round jams/gets stuck inside. I think it's an ejector issue but I'm not a gunsmith. Calling SW tomorrow. Thinking about trading it in for a more reliable 22 pistol. Anybody have suggestions on an alternate 22 pistol? I like that Browning 22 1911 look alike. Anybody have one of those? I hear the Ruger 22's are a pain to field strip. How about the Browning Buckmark?
After tying the CCI's I switched to Aguila Super Extra and Federal HV Match Gold Medal. They all failed ejection. It seems like the ejector can't remove the spent round fast enough for the next round. I've had all kinds of issues. The spent round is half way out when the second round winds on top of the spent round. Both magazines have the same results. I'm lucky to fire 2 rounds in a row. Every other round jams/gets stuck inside. I think it's an ejector issue but I'm not a gunsmith. Calling SW tomorrow. Thinking about trading it in for a more reliable 22 pistol. Anybody have suggestions on an alternate 22 pistol? I like that Browning 22 1911 look alike. Anybody have one of those? I hear the Ruger 22's are a pain to field strip. How about the Browning Buckmark?
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I'm sorry, but to say that one should not shoot name brand ammo from some of the companies listed is just not the right answer.
The right answer is for S&W to fix this Victory pistol.
It has had various issues since its introduction, and S&W seems not to care.
In the meantime, my Ruger 22 Auto (both MK III and 22/45) just goes on feeding absolutely anything. And I have one that has not been taken apart EVER, nor does it get cleaned more than once every few years.
If a 22 Auto will not perform as reliably as the Ruger, then I am not interested.
Making money is certainly one goal of a corporation, but long term survival is another, and the more customers that try S&W and leave for other brands the more long term survival is impacted.
Bad show.
I have read in the last two weeks on this forum of folks having issues with the Victory, the M&P pistols, the light strikes with revolvers that seem to have started after S&W shaved a little off the frame mounted firing pin to make sure of California drop tests, etc.
The one thing we all want in a firearm is one that fires each time the trigger is pulled, and it should work - whether that be cylinder rotates (there are posts on here about dragging cylinders in new guns) when trigger is pulled, or whether that be extract, eject, feed and fire again in semi-auto weapons (without out of battery firings, etc.).
S&W seems not to publicize what, if anything, it is doing to address ongoing problems, and for me, that promotes LACK of confidence in the product.
Sorry S&W, but that is how I feel.
The right answer is for S&W to fix this Victory pistol.
It has had various issues since its introduction, and S&W seems not to care.
In the meantime, my Ruger 22 Auto (both MK III and 22/45) just goes on feeding absolutely anything. And I have one that has not been taken apart EVER, nor does it get cleaned more than once every few years.
If a 22 Auto will not perform as reliably as the Ruger, then I am not interested.
Making money is certainly one goal of a corporation, but long term survival is another, and the more customers that try S&W and leave for other brands the more long term survival is impacted.
Bad show.
I have read in the last two weeks on this forum of folks having issues with the Victory, the M&P pistols, the light strikes with revolvers that seem to have started after S&W shaved a little off the frame mounted firing pin to make sure of California drop tests, etc.
The one thing we all want in a firearm is one that fires each time the trigger is pulled, and it should work - whether that be cylinder rotates (there are posts on here about dragging cylinders in new guns) when trigger is pulled, or whether that be extract, eject, feed and fire again in semi-auto weapons (without out of battery firings, etc.).
S&W seems not to publicize what, if anything, it is doing to address ongoing problems, and for me, that promotes LACK of confidence in the product.
Sorry S&W, but that is how I feel.
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HOUSTON RICK
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My respectful answer to the Victory issues: The 22S or 22A:
Electraclyde
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Have had my Victory for only 9 days now. First range trip was a disaster. The gun failed to eject about every 3rd or 4th round, using 5 brands of ammo.
Went home and started searching the net for info. Found a comment about "tweeking" the ejector about 1mm toward the center. Did this and have not had any issues for over 400 rounds, and 7 different brands. Used a wooden Dowell to move the ejector, not a pair of needle nose pliers.
Went home and started searching the net for info. Found a comment about "tweeking" the ejector about 1mm toward the center. Did this and have not had any issues for over 400 rounds, and 7 different brands. Used a wooden Dowell to move the ejector, not a pair of needle nose pliers.
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I have several thousand rds thru mine, CCI SV, Mini mags, Auto Match, Aguila, absolutely perfect! Very nice gun stock, better than the competition. I suspect you have an isolated issue, I would probably try mini maf 1st, maybe something else, both for reference and as info for S&W. Then, send the gun back. These guns are super reliable.
My respectful answer to the Victory issues: The 22S or 22A:
My answer to the victory is my Buckmark & my Ruger MKII....no failures & no parts replaced ever.......As to breaking in......I just loaded "em" and started "shootin"....
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That "ejector tweak" is what solved my Victory problems too.
BTW, the flat trigger is sweet.
