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Promag, any good?
Lookin for mags for my S&W 457, and they are getting hard to find! Promag has some at $34 each.
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Nope. Pretty much good as targets. At best they are a 50/50 if they work or not
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There has been much posted in the past about Promags. One forum member summed it all up best by stating that if you stomp them down real good they make reasonably good door stops.
I would not put them in any pistol, even for range use, as many cause jams, and what little is saved in their lower price is not worth the problems they cause. I would recommend sticking with S&W original equipment or other quality mags.
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Arik is being generous. Don't buy them if they offer YOU $34 to take them.
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Well if anyone has S&W457 mags to sell, let me know please. I hear that 4516 mags will work also.
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Friends don't let friends use Pro Mags.
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I called S&W and they don't have any!
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You are searching for S&W part #190740000 or just 19074.
S&W 4516 factory NEW .45acp 7rd mag
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Thanks, I will try again!
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I've bought mags from Joes Pawn for at least 6 years and I can't remember a time when he didn't have 4516 mags
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I'm not sure how familiar you are with the S&W 1-2-3rd Gens, but maybe we haven't stated what is obvious to us that may not be obvious to everyone...
The full size 4506 magazines will work 100% perfectly fine in your 457. They will of course not look correct and they will hang out the bottom of the pistol, they would be a poor idea as the magazine in the pistol while it is carried, but they would be perfectly fine as backup magazines carried on the opposite side, and they would work wonderfully as range and practice magazines.
The 4506 magazine are absolutely plentiful and take very little effort to find.
As to the subject Pro-Mag...
Well, there are very few magazine makers in man's history on Earth that have as well established a reputation for pure dreck. Pro-Mag is the industry leader as perhaps humankind's WORST magazine maker. If the challenge were given "take one chance and find me the crappiest newly manufactured magazine in one single try", you'd be foolish to shop a brand other than Pro-Mag.
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Thanks for your suggestions!
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Well Said Sevens
Sevens,
You explained the subject of Promags better and more articulately than I have ever heard it said before, well done! I especially liked the descriptive noun "dreck", have not heard that used since I left Brooklyn many years ago.
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The ONLY time Pro-mags should be considered an option, is when there are absolutely no other choices available. Example: Hi-cap Makarovs. I bought one of these pistols for $199, with one (Promag) mag, which is surprisingly functional. It took me a couple of months of deep Google (and Bing) searches to find a pair of reasonably priced pro-mags; got them from a guy mentioned on a FAL forum. He charged the standard MSRP, I think $17 apiece.
Every vendor was sold out, and the auction sites were asking $50+ for promags, and $100 for factory.
The one that came with it has been 100%, the 2 newer ones seem sticky. I will make them work for range usage.
On another note, I've seen a prominent poster here say that the promags for the 39 series seem to work fine. I got one to supplement my factory mag for my 39-2, and it does work. I've since traded for a pair of 3906 mags that are a little long, but function good.
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scoobysnacker...I too have a 39-2 and was bitten by the Promag bug after I obtained the gun. Got it for less than $20 on ebay with free shipping. I was hesitant at first to buy it but curiosity won out. Read many a post telling me to "stay away". I think I had one hiccup at first use. But it's been fine ever since. With so many negative reviews on other guns/models, I don't see how the company stays in business. It must be us 39-2 owners keeping them afloat!
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During the AWB, I bought a Sig 229 that came with only a 10 rd magazine. At that time factory 13 rounders were selling for close to $100. I read on the Sig forum that if you bought ProMags and replaced the spring and follower, they would work. I invested $10 in a magazine and a bit more for a spring and a follower and it worked. I bought more ProMags and found the only thing that really needed replacing was the springs. I have put many thousands of rounds through that Sig and those magazines with no problems at all. I even shot close to 3K rounds at a 3 day class with no failures of any kind. Maybe I have just been lucky, but I can't complain about my ProMags,
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Who manufactured the springs and followers you put in the ProMags? How much were they?
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During the AWB, I bought a Sig 229 that came with only a 10 rd magazine. At that time factory 13 rounders were selling for close to $100. I read on the Sig forum that if you bought ProMags and replaced the spring and follower, they would work. I invested $10 in a magazine and a bit more for a spring and a follower and it worked. I bought more ProMags and found the only thing that really needed replacing was the springs. I have put many thousands of rounds through that Sig and those magazines with no problems at all. I even shot close to 3K rounds at a 3 day class with no failures of any kind. Maybe I have just been lucky, but I can't complain about my ProMags,
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That may have been an option during the AWB but today there's not much of a point in doing all that. Doing a that when you can get Mac-Gar mags cheaper.
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The ONLY Pro Mags I have ever used or owned came with the 39-2 I bought from Cabelas several years ago....believe it or not they actually ran without issue.
Seems like the single stack mags from them actually worked.
Just MY experience.....
Randy
PS. I am NOT endorsing them by any stretch of the imagination!
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I was able to get the followers from Sig and the springs were Wolf. I soon learned that the springs were all that I needed.
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I bought more sig mags after the AWB ended, but I have lots and lots of ProMags left.
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That may have been an option during the AWB but today there's not much of a point in doing all that. Doing a that when you can get Mac-Gar mags cheaper.
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I got several of Promags in some horse trading and used them at the range, standing them upright on a board and shooting them off.
Of the six magazines, none was worth a pinch of puppy s**t, as grandmother used to say.
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I'm not sure how familiar you are with the S&W 1-2-3rd Gens, but maybe we haven't stated what is obvious to us that may not be obvious to everyone...
The full size 4506 magazines will work 100% perfectly fine in your 457. They will of course not look correct and they will hang out the bottom of the pistol, they would be a poor idea as the magazine in the pistol while it is carried, but they would be perfectly fine as backup magazines carried on the opposite side, and they would work wonderfully as range and practice magazines.
The 4506 magazine are absolutely plentiful and take very little effort to find.
As to the subject Pro-Mag...
Well, there are very few magazine makers in man's history on Earth that have as well established a reputation for pure dreck. Pro-Mag is the industry leader as perhaps humankind's WORST magazine maker. If the challenge were given "take one chance and find me the crappiest newly manufactured magazine in one single try", you'd be foolish to shop a brand other than Pro-Mag.
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I can think of ONE that is worse...
National Magazine Co.
Literally every style mag they make has sucked.
Whereas Promag makes the one reliable mag that works
in my Ballester-Molina...although that's likely due to
PM's out of tolerance specs, which match up nicely with
1930's technology
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My girlfriend used to say, "I'd use ProMags, fly ValueJet and appear on FearFactor for you".
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I just have to add my two one hundredths of a dollar to this discussion.
Over the years I've had a few ProMag magazines, most of which came with used pistols I purchased and a couple I was dumb enough to buy myself. Not one of the magazines worked 100% reliably. The worst; a toss up between a 17 round Beretta 92 mag and a Sig P225 mag. The Beretta would only feed five or six rounds, then stovepipe. How do you make a Beretta 92 choke? ProMag!
The Sig Pro Mags, well I bought two of them. Neither would feed the first round. If I chambered a round from another mag, they would work. Even the couple of 1911 PM mags I got used wouldn't feed reliably.
I gave all of them to my LGS where they ended up in the $ junk mag box.
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I see some...
Check Ebay
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I have used ProMag 10 rounders in a pre-B CZ75 and a 1950's Browning P35. Both work perfectly. I have also used their 10 rounders in a Star Model 30. Those required a very slight adjustment of the tab on the side of the body that levered the mag safety out of the way so that the trigger could be released. No reliability problems. I guess I have better luck than most.
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I made the mistake of buying a Pro Mag magazine for an M-1 carbine at Cabela's Bargain Cave once. The dang thing wouldn't fit in the magazine well, and then Cabela's didn't want to take it back. I finally had to get a manager involved to get a refund. Never again.
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The best rule of thumb I could give- if Promag is all you can get (double stack Makarov, 39-2, etc), get them for the range, and if one proves reliable, consider it like any good mag. If there is anything better, get that.
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Years ago I got a High Standard Mag Adjustment Tool...
this has proven to be one of the smarter tool buys...
as one can adjust almost any standard steel mag lip...
Magazine Adjustment Tool for High Standard .22 Cal
High Standard Parts Online | Hi Standard, Dedicated to the High Standard Enthusiast
Because that's where most of the problems are,
if not with the spring or mag catch hole...
Becomes particularly worthwhile if you love old guns...
especially with oddball mags...
because sometimes you get a mag and it sucks,
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so you start trying to make the NOS mag work
for your particular firearm
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Hey, that tool is pretty neat! Would you suggest that it works for any/all rimfire magazines?
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