3913 vs XDE

Beretta just lost their contract so we'll see how long the 92 remains.

CZ is made I a different country with different raw material prices and wages.

Sig is loosing to itself. Many departments are replacing their old P series with the 320 or something else. As orders fall off so may the guns.

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PERHAPS YOU HAVE A POINT FRIEND, MAYBE ITS THE END OF SEASON FOR METALIC HANDGUNS. I GUESS TIME WILL TELL. HERE IN EUROPE HOWEVER, METALICS STILL ARE SOUGHT AFTER. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT IS MORE ECONOMICAL TO PRODUCE SOMETHING IN THE US, THAN EUROPE AND THEN SHIP IT TO THE US. PERHAPS THE REASONS WHY BERETTA AND SIG SAUER MOVED PRODUCTION THERE. NOT SURE WHAT THE COSTS ARE IN CHECH REPUBLIC FOR THE CZ MANUFACTURE. TIME WILL TELL. :)
 
PERHAPS YOU HAVE A POINT FRIEND, MAYBE ITS THE END OF SEASON FOR METALIC HANDGUNS. I GUESS TIME WILL TELL. HERE IN EUROPE HOWEVER, METALICS STILL ARE SOUGHT AFTER. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT IS MORE ECONOMICAL TO PRODUCE SOMETHING IN THE US, THAN EUROPE AND THEN SHIP IT TO THE US. PERHAPS THE REASONS WHY BERETTA AND SIG SAUER MOVED PRODUCTION THERE. NOT SURE WHAT THE COSTS ARE IN CHECH REPUBLIC FOR THE CZ MANUFACTURE. TIME WILL TELL. :)
It's not all money. Countries like Germany and Switzerland have laws about what they can and can't export. Which is why you have a Sig USA and not to many real Swiss Sig rifles

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It's not all money. Countries like Germany and Switzerland have laws about what they can and can't export. Which is why you have a Sig USA and not to many real Swiss Sig rifles

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PERHAPS YOU ARE RIGHT FRIEND. I REALLY DO NOT KNOW THE EXPORT LAWS OF GERMANY SWITZERLAND OR ITALY, AND I CAN NOT HAVE A CERTAIN WAY OF FINDING THEM OUT. I HAD READ IN THE PAST, BERETTA HAD MADE ITS PISTOL FACILITY IN MERYLAND, BECAUSE THAT WAS A DEMAND IN THE MILITARY CONTRACT. TO BUILT THE PISTOLS ON US GROUND. SO, THIS IS ONE IS IN PAR WITH WHAT YOU SAY. OTOH,I READ THAT THE F92 WAS CHOSEN OVER THE P226, BECAUSE IT WAS A DOLLAR LESS PER PIECE. THEREFORE, I THINK, EVEN THOUGH AS YOU SAY OTHER FACTORS ARE IN PLAY, COST MIGHT STILL BE THE MOST CRUCIAL. :)
 
PERHAPS YOU ARE RIGHT FRIEND. I REALLY DO NOT KNOW THE EXPORT LAWS OF GERMANY SWITZERLAND OR ITALY, AND I CAN NOT HAVE A CERTAIN WAY OF FINDING THEM OUT. I HAD READ IN THE PAST, BERETTA HAD MADE ITS PISTOL FACILITY IN MERYLAND, BECAUSE THAT WAS A DEMAND IN THE MILITARY CONTRACT. TO BUILT THE PISTOLS ON US GROUND. SO, THIS IS ONE IS IN PAR WITH WHAT YOU SAY. OTOH,I READ THAT THE F92 WAS CHOSEN OVER THE P226, BECAUSE IT WAS A DOLLAR LESS PER PIECE. THEREFORE, I THINK, EVEN THOUGH AS YOU SAY OTHER FACTORS ARE IN PLAY, COST MIGHT STILL BE THE MOST CRUCIAL. :)
It wasn't a dollar less it was simply that Beretta outbid Sig on parts. The chosen company had to provide not only the gun but also spare parts

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Now that they have been out for a bit, does anyone have any experience with the xde?
 
Now that they have been out for a bit, does anyone have any experience with the xde?



Lots of really nice guns in this thread, love my CS9 and would like to find a 3913.
I do have the new XDe and it’s been 100% through about 700 rounds. Top heavy feeing at first but the more your shoot it the better it gets. Extremely accurate for me also. Remind me of a single stack P2000, but the DA is better and the SA/reset a little further out.

It suites me very well.


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Lots of really nice guns in this thread, love my CS9 and would like to find a 3913.
I do have the new XDe and it’s been 100% through about 700 rounds. Top heavy feeing at first but the more your shoot it the better it gets. Extremely accurate for me also. Remind me of a single stack P2000, but the DA is better and the SA/reset a little further out.

It suites me very well.


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Is it much larger/heavier than the cs9?

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Plastic Striker Fired or All Metal Hammer Fired ...

I will always go with an all metal weapon and consider the third generation of Smith & Wesson semi-autos the pinnacle of this class of weapon.

My 3913NL is a fine example of this, action job by "T" (Teddy Jacobson) and slide refinishing and tune-up including recrowned barrel by our own BMCM (the Master Chief):

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For concealed carry my 3914 DAO gets the nod, Big Dot Tritium night sights, slim and smooth. DAO makes it like my primary carry revolvers:

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If I was given an XDE it would be gone soon.

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Gun Tests just did a review of the XDe. It did well. However, I have a 6904 that I would never replace with a new polymer. The 3913 from what I'm hearing is a great gun.
 
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