CS45 It doesnt know its a little gun.
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HCH
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What do you feed it? Any recommendations for a 185gr cartridge?
Isn't 230gr what Nature intended to be shot in .45ACP pistols? All else risks blasphemy and an eternity in Hades owning only polymer framed semi autos. 
Don~Z~
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Mine has been good to me so far...
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I am amazed at how well the CS45 shoots. I have always heard horror stories about short barrelled 45s.
I was so impressed with the CS45 that I took the leap and bought a Colt Defender today..
I guess we'll see if all they say about the reliability of the newer ones is true.
Then will be the decision on which one I like best.. CS45 is in the lead so far.
I was so impressed with the CS45 that I took the leap and bought a Colt Defender today..
I guess we'll see if all they say about the reliability of the newer ones is true.
Then will be the decision on which one I like best.. CS45 is in the lead so far.
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my CS45 is my EDC & I qualify with it once a year for my retired leo carry permit. Never fails to work & plenty accurate. for practice I use a reload of 185 gr lead swc & 3.9 gr Bullseye or 230 gr JHP & 4.6 gr Bullseye. carry round is Federal 230 gr JHP.
I was wearing mine in the shop today. Two customers came in looking for compact 45s. They held the XDs45, shield 45 and G36. Neither cared for any of those and were not interested in sub 4.25 barrel 1911s.
So I showed them the CS45. Both wanted to order one. When I told them it was out of print, the one guy pulled out his phone and brought up an auction board. Another gun sold off the internet!
Regards 18DAI
So I showed them the CS45. Both wanted to order one. When I told them it was out of print, the one guy pulled out his phone and brought up an auction board. Another gun sold off the internet!
Regards 18DAI
Big Shrek
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HOUSTON RICK
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All the Smith DA/SAs and DAOs shoot absurdly well for me. I've literally not found one that would treat me bad.
I'd like to try an Officer or Commander-size 1911, but nobody I'm chummy with has one, and there are far too many Smiths I want more.
I'd like to try an Officer or Commander-size 1911, but nobody I'm chummy with has one, and there are far too many Smiths I want more.
The CS45 shoots as well for me as my larger 4516s and 4513s. I love this little 45. Jus sayin.
LOL I have the same "problem" with my Sig 245's
Another good .45 Carry option..... if you do cocked and locked...... is a "CCO" size 1911..... Officers size frame w/ a 4-4.25 Commander size upper
Very interesting comment (to me anyway) given the overwhelming success of the similarly compact Shields in the plastic realm.
I was still in my 25-year "deep sleep" in 1998 when the Chief's Specials were introduced and I stayed asleep right through their demise in 2006 with the big switcharoo over to plastic by the mothership. I didn't wake up until the election of a certain anti-2A president in 2008 and even then, my initial focus was all on long guns (which I had just discovered I could shoot with my left arm handicap after all if properly equipped). I really didn't get back into handguns much until the spring and summer of 2013.
So why weren't the CS9 and CS45 better appreciated during their production years?
I can think of a few possible answers to that question, but I'd rather hear more about it from members who were wide awake during that late 3rd Gen production era.Almost like a Detonics Combat Master.
Or on a different scale, the Street Master.
1911's always look better in longslide.
TTSH...... as a big 39xx fan since their introduction in 89/90 I was excited when I heard about the Chief Specials being introduced................ then I held my first CS9 and was totally underwhelmed.
* Fat rubber (clothes grabbing) grips....no wood grip options
* Short butt; but w/ the 7rd mag and little finger rest...... it was basically the same size as my 39xx guns using the flush fit/steel bottom 7 round factory magazines in my stash.
*Short barrel/slide...... I carry IWB with a Sparks Summer Special.... so no practical difference to me for concealed carry.
* I was already "heavily" invested in the 39xx models... with 3-4 guns (3913,3914 and 3913NL) bunch of magazines and couple of holsters IWB and OWB
* So it came down to; there was NO practical reason to move to the CS guns from the 39xx, 6906s (and Sig 245s to meet my .45 needs) I had!!!!
Wise A.......I moved away from 1911 guns in the late 80s to Sigs......first a W German 220 and later adding the compact 245 to meet my .45 carry needs. About 4-5 years ago I came across a used Sig C3 (custom shop).......CCO....couldn't walk away from such a coooool gun priced at 5 bills
* Fat rubber (clothes grabbing) grips....no wood grip options
* Short butt; but w/ the 7rd mag and little finger rest...... it was basically the same size as my 39xx guns using the flush fit/steel bottom 7 round factory magazines in my stash.
*Short barrel/slide...... I carry IWB with a Sparks Summer Special.... so no practical difference to me for concealed carry.
* I was already "heavily" invested in the 39xx models... with 3-4 guns (3913,3914 and 3913NL) bunch of magazines and couple of holsters IWB and OWB
* So it came down to; there was NO practical reason to move to the CS guns from the 39xx, 6906s (and Sig 245s to meet my .45 needs) I had!!!!
Wise A.......I moved away from 1911 guns in the late 80s to Sigs......first a W German 220 and later adding the compact 245 to meet my .45 carry needs. About 4-5 years ago I came across a used Sig C3 (custom shop).......CCO....couldn't walk away from such a coooool gun priced at 5 bills
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Triggernosis
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So why weren't the CS9 and CS45 better appreciated during their production years?
I'm interested in hearing some discussion on this issue too.
My CS9 went up for sale after I got my early 3913TSW. Same round capacity, better grip, longer barrel (okay, not much longer), and just felt better in my hand. The CS9 was a nice little gun, but as with you, it didn't fit a niche for me.
Got it!
I, too, feel that the rubber grips as OEM were a big marketing mistake. I wish that all my CS models had regular 3rd Gen wrap-around grips... although I am too lazy and unskilled to make my own BigDogs. But your other comments (about what you already owned) don't directly address the gun itself. Comparing it to modern plastic, you already had the M&P9c (closest equivalent) and out came the Shield 9 (equivalent). But Shields sold like popcorn!
Even in a world that already had the M&P9c. So why wouldn't the CS9 have done the same... albeit not in your particular case? Agreed. No question that the pre-rail 3913TSW (or pre-rail 3953TSW) is generally considered to be more desirable now than the CS9. However, in some respects, you might say that the CS9 ultimately replaced the pre-rail 3913TSW in the S&W line-up after the TSW's went bigger and railed!
