How about an M frame with updated internals, maybe a .22 short version to really minimize the size and weight. With todays interest in concealed carry there should be some market interest, it would make a good back up for the 500 Mag. or maybe just a bookend to the collection.

With good steel a 22lr could be the same size as the original M frame, which was in 22 long. 22 long has the same case size as a long rifle.

I am with you on this. M frames are just so well, "cute"

Here is mine which I have never fired although it has been used in the past.

With the tiny action parts it would be a tough sell to the factory production engineers!

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Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

I couldn't agree more. S&W would sell a ton of these in 22 LR or 22 WMR.

How's this for concealable?



Heck, they made them just fine without CNC! Should be a breeze nowadays.

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SWCA #3356, SWHF#611

I myself wouldn't care if the hammer, trigger, rebound slide etc were MIM and with MIM size should not mater. The frame and barrel should not be a problem. An alloy frame would be interesting.

It would weigh virtually nothing!

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SWCA #3356, SWHF#611

I'm glad to see I'm not alone. I know the parts would be small but if it was doable 100 years ago surely it should not be to hard now. CNC frame , MIM internals modern metallurgy , the weaknesses of the original Ladysmith should be overcome. My Ladysmith is not fully functional ,so a new mod. would give me a chance to actually shoot one. [it gives me a representative of the frame size without spending the money for a nice one], [my 317 gets close]

I have a soft spot for M's too.
Pictured are a 6" Target 3rd, a project 1st I hope to resurrect, and a factory refinished 3rd.
I've shot the two 3rd Models with .22 Short CB Caps.

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Chris
SWCA #2243 SWHF #292

Wow, that is tiny! When I saw this thread I looked up M frames on the internet but didn't see any pictures that showed someone's hand for reference.

Better than the NAA mini revolver.

Here is a comparison
X frame 500, N frame 45 colt, L frame 44 special, K frame 357, J frame 38 spec, I frame 32 long and finally an M frame 22 long. As you can see the M frame makes an I frame look big and the K frame model 19 above the M looks huge.

My set -o- M's.

Left side, 1st and 2nd models, right side 3rd model, 3rd model short barrel variation, bottom 3rd model target.

Shot them all with either CB caps or Agiula Colibris.



#3 son exercising the target model. He's a big M frame fan.

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SWCA #3356, SWHF#611

Mrs Raljr1 wanted to carry mine in her garter like the ladies of olden days.

S&W 1st Model Ladysmith (11).JPG

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Robert
SWCA #2906, SWHF #760

They ever make an M with a lanyard loop?
Might be handy to help find where you stashed it on your person...


They are just a little too large to hang on you keyring......

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Dean
SWCA #680 SWHF #446

They could offer 4 models in the first run. Alloy frames on all.
#1. 2.25" 7 shot, black nitride, birdshead grip.
#2 2.25" 7 shot, black nitride, stainless hammer trigger and cylinder, birdshead grip.
#3 4" standard grip, blued, adjustable sight, trainer for kids.
#4 6" target model with all the trimmings.
if the price point was right I'd for sure buy 2, if not all 4.
Of course if your a purist then the black nitride could be replaced with standard blue, I just thought that for pocket carry or tacklebox carry that the nitride would wear better.

Hello,

Can someone tell what are the exact dimensions of the M-frame cylinder? Diameter and length.

Thank you very much.

Measured mine for you
length .980 Non recessed BTW
dia .993

A J frame cylinder is 1.306 in diameter for a size refernce. My M frame makes my I frame 22 look big.

I couldn't of course keep myself from fondling it a bit. One thing about it is I could never go to far on the trigger with my finger as only about 1/2 of my finger tip fits between the trigger and the guard.