10 round limiters

[oneyeopn]

For those of you who live in 10 round states. Are the limiters that convert a magazine to 10 rounds legal? I have seen them advertised and are seeing more of them advertised and I just wondered.

 

[GypsmJim]

That horse has already left the barn. Where can you get plugs that limit them to 7 rounds?

 

[oneyeopn]

You cant, you can only at this time buy 5 rounders, but not everyone lives in NY state, I was asking a question. I do not have to worry about magazine size. I just wondered. Thank You!

 

[hdbeast]

For those of you who live in 10 round states. Are the limiters that convert a magazine to 10 rounds legal? I have seen them advertised and are seeing more of them advertised and I just wondered.

In Cali I think it would be problem unless you epoxy and pin the base so that it cannot be converted back. We can buy them already converted from a 20 or 30 to a 10 rounder and sealed at the base but they are about 30.00 dollars each.

Buy a 20 or 30 round kit and ship it to Cali is easy but if you assemble it then you have manufactured and that's a big problem.

Gary

 

[oneyeopn]

In Cali I think it would be problem unless you epoxy and pin the base so that it cannot be converted back. We can buy them already converted from a 20 or 30 to a 10 rounder and sealed at the base but they are about 30.00 dollars each.

Buy a 20 or 30 round kit and ship it to Cali is easy but if you assemble it then you have manufactured and that's a big problem.

Gary

So can you convert them, if I wanted to go visit a friend in Cali, I am allowed 30's where I live but I wanted to take my rifle.
A) I would have to have a bullet button, I know.
B) Could I convert permanently a couple of my 30's to 10's and be within the law?

If I (heaven forbid) wanted to move to Cali and wanted to convert my mags before I went would that be legal?

 

[hdbeast]

Grover

The Cali laws are so confusing to most of us here that most don't even like to give out what we think is legal or not, here some of the police don't even know what is legal and will just take your gun then make you fight to get it back, that's with the bullet button, and add a mag that's longer then a ten rounders and they take that the gun and you.


Bring an evil gun into this golden state and these morons will have you listed as a domestic terrorist. (just kidding) this state is not gun friendly, If I didn't own a 35 your old business I'd be gone tomorrow.

Gary

 

[Argonnakid]

Might be easier to just use a 10 round mag in that state. And why would anyone want to move TO Cali, taxes out there are crazy high.

 

[hdbeast]

Might be easier to just use a 10 round mag in that state. And why would anyone want to move TO Cali, taxes out there are crazy high.

That's the best and safest mag to use here, and it is a very expensive place to try a run a business or live, great place to ride a Harley with the coast and the redwoods in my area and up here in northern Cali the people are more conservative then the SF Bay area of Southern Cali. We still have great gun shops and places to shot and hunt up here, but the libs are destroying this state every way they can.

Gary

 

[Argonnakid]

I just heard on the radio today about some golfer, he's leaving your state because his tax rate is 60-65%.

 

[oneyeopn]

I used to work for the city of Santa Barbara, lived just north of there in Solvang. I would not move to California for any reason. I was just trying to wrap my head around the limiters and how legal they are. I do appreciate the information and I do feel bad for my friends that have to deal with the state and the liberal mindset that has sprang from there. Until I retired I was living in Colorado and there used to be a saying up there that said "Please do not Californicate Colorado" but it is too late for that. There is something to be said for living back in the midwest, in farming country where I can still step out my back door and go shooting. With whatever size magazine I want.

 

[Milky]

Also you could buy 10/20's, or 10/30's already blocked and sealed, could even have them instal an ultimate bullet button tool.

I picked up 10/20 (pmags) with the UBBT installed for $18 (this was in may 2012).

Try caleagalmags.com, or exilemachine.com

Pmags have been scarce lately and a bit pricey too, not to sure if you'll be able to find them for the same price.

Another option is to get a usgi mag install a magpul rangerplate and install the UBBT into the ranger plate instead of the mag.

Just realized the UBBT might not be popular on this site. It is a little knob (for lack of better description) that is installed into the lower section of the magazine (for or aft) or installed into the ranger plate. The tool is rendered useless while the magazine is inserted into the rifle, so it makes it legal to use. It only comes in handy if you have multiple magazines with the UBBT, using the next mag as a tool to unlock the spent mag inserted into your rifle.

if you look closely at any picture I have uploaded of my rifle you will see said knob at the lower front part of my magazine.

 

[rojodiablo]

For those of you who live in 10 round states. Are the limiters that convert a magazine to 10 rounds legal? I have seen them advertised and are seeing more of them advertised and I just wondered.

There are several ways to do this.
I will stick to Ca regs. They state the magazine must be a permanent modification. This means the magazine must be glued, or the stop must be a rivet, not a screw. Or, the block must be locked in in SOME WAY as to make said block not be easily removable.

Now comes California magazine blocks. Thse are specific to Pmags. What is DIFFERENT is the bottom plate for a Pmag is removed and not used. BUT, the lower locking slide IS retained and used. The Ca mag block replaces the lower plate with a plate that has an extention molded with it, so it is all one piece. These alone make it legal, because A: It keeps you to 10 rounds. And, it's a permanent modification because if you REMOVE the magazine block, the bottom plate of the magazine is now gone, and the magazine will not stay together and function. The bottom locking slide will simply slide forward and the guts will fall out of the magazine.
As such, it is a permanent modification of the magazine. (Mag is useless without it, and thus qualifies as permanent.)

Californiamagazineblocks.com

 

[oneyeopn]

Thank you all, I really was wondering how this all worked. and JIC wanted to store the info away!