GunsandGars
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I am sure you mean a Glock 20 not 22?
10mm?
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Ghost_Soldier
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There's plenty of 10mm ammo to be found online. Prices are pretty close to the price of .357mag ammo.
I'd probably buy a s&w 10mm if they started making them again. I just don't think there's much demand for a 10mm handgun for some reason, that's probably why so few companies currently make 10mm handguns.
I'd probably buy a s&w 10mm if they started making them again. I just don't think there's much demand for a 10mm handgun for some reason, that's probably why so few companies currently make 10mm handguns.
Most of the factory ammo is watered down ammo since the wimps at the FBI cried that the full load stuff was uncontrollabe and hurt their soft hands. One reason that the 40mm got the nod ,since most of the FBI people could qualify with the high vel 10 ammo. They even had low vel. 10 ammo made to try to make things work out but that did not pan out either.
One thing good about the 10 if you reload, you can always go down to the wimpy 40 velositys and loads if you want........ the 40 will never be a 10.
One thing good about the 10 if you reload, you can always go down to the wimpy 40 velositys and loads if you want........ the 40 will never be a 10.
Watered down or not there is still all the 10mm you can buy available online at various Bulk Ammo suppliers. Of course it is cheaper and more custom to reload but for those who don't think you can buy 10mm ammo now are not looking very hard.
Wally World doesn't stock it but then I don't buy any of my ammo from wally World! Too much hassle trying to find a sales clerk with a key to the case. I buy 95% of my ammo online and 10mm is readily abundant.
10mmauto
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I know this is an older post, but S&W, if that's true, here's firm order #1!
Shadow1006
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Armscor is selling their 1911 10mm thru Cheaper Than Dirt for $599...
However not everyone is interested in yet another 1911 pistol!
I am with a few of you here S&W will not step out of their comfort zone to build an M&P 10mm, it boils down to No Contracts for such an animal eventhought the shooting public that like and shoot the 10mm guns long for another good model for the 10mm ballistic performance.
Underwood Ammo has some of the most potent 10mm ammo on the market today...infact I fired some of it from my S&W1006 this evening.
However not everyone is interested in yet another 1911 pistol!
I am with a few of you here S&W will not step out of their comfort zone to build an M&P 10mm, it boils down to No Contracts for such an animal eventhought the shooting public that like and shoot the 10mm guns long for another good model for the 10mm ballistic performance.
Underwood Ammo has some of the most potent 10mm ammo on the market today...infact I fired some of it from my S&W1006 this evening.
S&W1006
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I have been waiting on a new S&W 10mm myself. I wrote them and requested a 10mm M&P. I don't know if they will ever give us another 10mm but you never know the 41 magnum has been declared dead numerous times but yet it hangs in there and the 10mm has a loyal following just like the 41. I hope they do make a new one.
10mmauto
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500 orders
Just wondering. What if we someone DID approach S&W with an order for 500?
I'd put $1,000 into escrow for the chance to have a 1 of 500 gun. And a 10mm to boot!
Just wondering. What if we someone DID approach S&W with an order for 500?
I'd put $1,000 into escrow for the chance to have a 1 of 500 gun. And a 10mm to boot!
^^^ what he said...........
I'm not so sure that I would trust the "new S&W" with competently building a non metal framed 10mm... just my $.02.
Now... if they would do a special run of 1006's (or something to that effect), now were talking and I'd be all in for that !!
But being in California, we most likely wouldn't be able to get one anyway...
Now... if they would do a special run of 1006's (or something to that effect), now were talking and I'd be all in for that !!
But being in California, we most likely wouldn't be able to get one anyway...
Shadow1006
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Just so these haven't been overlooked...Yes make the M&P10mm!
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With the news of dumping third gen parts production it looks like a remake of the 10xx series is now a dream. I doubt they will ever see that a M&P in at least a limited run like a long slide for hunting would sell.
James&theGiant1911
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I like the 10 mm, and IMO the best 10mm ever produced were the 3rd gen 10xx series. I passed on Deltas because a lot of people complain about the frames or slides, iirc, crack over time. The Smith 10xx series pistols are tanks. The 10mm is a cannon but I do not think they will ever make another 10mm. The ammo is expensive and there are better rounds out there. I am currently in love with the 357 Sig it has reduced recoil, hella high ballistic ratings with the quickness of a 9mm.
If you want a 10mm then you just need to find a 3rd generation in it, those are the benchmark for the round. Although a Brenn Ten would be cool as well if you could find a shooter with an actual mag that works.
If you want a 10mm then you just need to find a 3rd generation in it, those are the benchmark for the round. Although a Brenn Ten would be cool as well if you could find a shooter with an actual mag that works.
My feelings exactly... however, I've got the same problem (nanny government deciding what you can buy/own) here in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts.Now... if they would do a special run of 1006's (or something to that effect), now were talking and I'd be all in for that !!
But being in California, we most likely wouldn't be able to get one anyway...
Big Shrek
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I'd love to see an M&P 10mm, however the chances of it actually able to
compete with the Glock 20 are slim and none.
The Glocks have turned into the AR15 of pistols...aftermarket is Huge...
not to mention it having been around and has the reliability & recognition...
A new M&P in 10mm would cost at least $650 minimum...
which would doom it before it ever got started...
mag capacity would be the same or lower...if lower it'd really hurt it...
and we'ed all wait until someone torture tested it until it failed...
because 10mm ain 't yer ordinary cartridge...we'ed need to KNOW.
Just can't see it taking off like a reprint of the 3rd Gen 10xx's would...
compete with the Glock 20 are slim and none.
The Glocks have turned into the AR15 of pistols...aftermarket is Huge...
not to mention it having been around and has the reliability & recognition...
A new M&P in 10mm would cost at least $650 minimum...
which would doom it before it ever got started...
mag capacity would be the same or lower...if lower it'd really hurt it...
and we'ed all wait until someone torture tested it until it failed...
because 10mm ain 't yer ordinary cartridge...we'ed need to KNOW.
Just can't see it taking off like a reprint of the 3rd Gen 10xx's would...
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Broker50
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I agree. And, IMHO, they've already made the best 10 MM pistols ever made in the 1006, & variants. If they had only made a SA version with adjustable sights similar to Bomar sights, not the winged monstrosities they put on them. Oh well, there are still some available if you look hard enough.
Ascension
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Big 10mm fan here and I own a 1066. The 10mm is in ballistics inferior to a .357 Sig what the heck are you smoking???
The 10mm has a less sharp recoil and hits MUCH harder than a .357 Sig does and it's not even close in muzzle energy. There is not a single ballistic category that a 10mm will not outperform the .357 Sig badly in and ammo for the 10mm in my area is about as plentiful and priced about the same as .357 sig.
The best 10mm ever produced was the 3rd gen S&W 10 series and they need to reintroduce them as a TSW line in the 3.5, 4 and 5 inch barrels!! We need to see a S&W TSW 1013,1066 and 1006.
The Glocks are mere toys in comparison and the Colt Delta is vastly inferior in case support and strength to the old Smiths. My first 10mm was a Glock 29 which I sold soon after I picked up my 1066 because the Smith out shot it so badly I never wanted to shoot the Glock again.
10mm is making a major come back and several major ammo companies have recently released brand new full power 10mm ammo including Federal. 10mm is not going anywhere as it has has a very loyal following. Smith is making a serious marketing error in not reentering the 10mm market with a updated all steel 10 series.
The 10mm has a less sharp recoil and hits MUCH harder than a .357 Sig does and it's not even close in muzzle energy. There is not a single ballistic category that a 10mm will not outperform the .357 Sig badly in and ammo for the 10mm in my area is about as plentiful and priced about the same as .357 sig.
The best 10mm ever produced was the 3rd gen S&W 10 series and they need to reintroduce them as a TSW line in the 3.5, 4 and 5 inch barrels!! We need to see a S&W TSW 1013,1066 and 1006.
The Glocks are mere toys in comparison and the Colt Delta is vastly inferior in case support and strength to the old Smiths. My first 10mm was a Glock 29 which I sold soon after I picked up my 1066 because the Smith out shot it so badly I never wanted to shoot the Glock again.
10mm is making a major come back and several major ammo companies have recently released brand new full power 10mm ammo including Federal. 10mm is not going anywhere as it has has a very loyal following. Smith is making a serious marketing error in not reentering the 10mm market with a updated all steel 10 series.
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James&theGiant1911
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They used a LPA sight which is sort of like the bomar and if you want it milled flat to the slide, I bet a custom house like Novaks could do it. Funny that Wayne Novak served as a consultant to Smith and Wesson and ended up helping on the redesign of the pistol from the 2nd gen to the 3rd gen, he specifically applied his novak style sites to the slides which is what most 3rd gen Smith and Wesson pistols sport.
I think Smith as of a few years ago was still making a Smith and Wesson wheel gun that used the 10mm cartridge. I never argued the ballistics of the round, for it is a cannon but I would argue that it has more dirty harry drift than the 357 sig meaning that your follow up shots are a lot easier to place on target with the necked down 9 than with the more powerful 10mm load. I have both, I do not see myself parting with either but as a carry weapon the Sig is in favor, it is the primary weapon being used currently by your air marshals and other agencies.
Both rounds are going to pack more punch than the standard 9mm and 40 caliber cartridges.
I think Smith as of a few years ago was still making a Smith and Wesson wheel gun that used the 10mm cartridge. I never argued the ballistics of the round, for it is a cannon but I would argue that it has more dirty harry drift than the 357 sig meaning that your follow up shots are a lot easier to place on target with the necked down 9 than with the more powerful 10mm load. I have both, I do not see myself parting with either but as a carry weapon the Sig is in favor, it is the primary weapon being used currently by your air marshals and other agencies.
Both rounds are going to pack more punch than the standard 9mm and 40 caliber cartridges.
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Ascension
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I have a LPA adjustable on my 1066 and love the sights. MUCH more compact and better looking that the factory adjustable are.
I shoot both full power 10mm and .357 Sig loads regularly.
Recoil is sharper and snappier with a 125 grain hot .357 sig than a 180 Grain 10mm is and follow up easier to me with the 10mm. It does depend a lot on load and bullet weight though.
To compare apples to apples a 135 grain Underwood 10mm is much easier to handle for me and get a solid follow up shot with than an Underwood 125 grain in .357 Sig. You are talking 800+ ft lbs of muzzle energy with the 10mm 135's vs 600 or so with the 125 .357 Sig in the Underwood which is a BIG energy difference!!
I shoot both full power 10mm and .357 Sig loads regularly.
Recoil is sharper and snappier with a 125 grain hot .357 sig than a 180 Grain 10mm is and follow up easier to me with the 10mm. It does depend a lot on load and bullet weight though.
To compare apples to apples a 135 grain Underwood 10mm is much easier to handle for me and get a solid follow up shot with than an Underwood 125 grain in .357 Sig. You are talking 800+ ft lbs of muzzle energy with the 10mm 135's vs 600 or so with the 125 .357 Sig in the Underwood which is a BIG energy difference!!
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