158 gr hard cast / 357 loads

I've used Sweets extensively on rifles, but never handguns. Have you had any experience with Sweets damaging a nickel or polished blue finish?

I have never used it on any gun with a nickle finish, but I have never had a problem losing any finish on a blued gun. I've used Sweets for at least 25 years with no complaints.
 
Thanks for the conversation. The gun and hard cast bullets are "in the mail". Now to find brass. I've got over a pound of 2400, but my stash of Unique is mighty slim.

It will be a good weekend to get to the range. A cool front is moving in. The 686 won't be in yet but some 100 yard shooting with the 460 XVR is in order.

Be safe.
 
Just switch to a harder bullet alloy. I use straight Linotype with or without a gas check for handgun bullets that I want to shoot at magnum velocities. It also works well in rifle loads up to at least 2,200 fps if used with a gas check.
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Where can you buy bullets cast with linotype that are affordable? I have had no luck with any commercial 158 gr SWC at velocity getting close to 1000 fps. All I get is leading and poor accuracy. I have used bullets from many commercial casters and have tried multiple powders in five different 357 magnum Smith and Wesons with no luck.
 
Stout load of 2400, 158 gr hard cast or JSP/JHP, std primer. Superb accuracy.
 
For velocities above ca 800-900 fps I only use jacketed bullets to prevent leading. I have never been able to successfully drive lead bullets at ca. 1000 fps or above without expereincing leading.
For mild loads with lead bullets my favorite powder is Trail Boss. As a plus it is virtually impossible to double charge a case with Trail Boss. The Hodgdon website has excellent data for both starting and maximum loads.

It doesn't have to be hard to not lead.. We cast our own .44 and .357 bullets out of water dropped straight wheelweights (soft) and push the 175 grain .357 SWCs to 1300 FPS with absolutely no leading whatsoever. The 255 Keith .44 bullets have gone over 1400 with no leading. My suspicion is that lube and proper sizing make more of a difference than anything.I'm using 50/50 white grease and candle wax for lube and it works awesome other than being a little thinner than I'd like, but that is easily remedied by adding a little more wax. Have you tried Tennessee Valley? I've pushed their 158 SWC's around 1500 FPS in my 6'' 586 with no problems.
 
For velocities above ca 800-900 fps I only use jacketed bullets to prevent leading. I have never been able to successfully drive lead bullets at ca. 1000 fps or above without experiencing leading.

Mercy. :( I was running some TVB LSWCs this weekend from a 4" GP-100 at 1400 fps (got to love Lil' Gun! :cool:) without a hint of leading. OTOH, I've also leaded the heck out of guns at just over 900 fps using the same bullet and Green Dot. Even Hornady swaged lead bullets have gotten up over 1200 fps for me w/o leading.

Lots of variables, of course, but you should not have any problem with cast bullets at much higher velocities than this.
 
I've had a different experience

For velocities above ca 800-900 fps I only use jacketed bullets to prevent leading. I have never been able to successfully drive lead bullets at ca. 1000 fps or above without expereincing leading.

I need to send you some bullets dude!

I have some H&G #290BB that I drive 1580fps from a Marlin 1894 with no leading at all! There have been others that have driven my bullets above the levels that you post and they haven't experienced leading either.

Probably what has happened is that you purchase your lead bullets and they come in only one size and one hardness. Commercial casters like TVB make them differently than most, you can get harder/softer and bigger/smaller to try in your firearm. With me casting my own, I can do the same thing, hence, I don't have the problems you mentioned with developed loads/bullet combinations.

Did I have to work at it? Yep! Without being able to cast your own, you are always at someone else's mercy. I don't like that idea so I got set up to cast. You may want to do the same. Maybe you don't shoot enough to justify the equipment. That is understandable, buy from Jessie. He will help you develop a load that will work and be cheaper than jacketed.
 
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