Stopped into a gun shop in the bay area and they had a used 16-4 with a 4 inch barrel, looked like it was in like new condition. They wanted 1800 bucks for it I am not up on the value of these but if anybody wants one let me know and I will send you the name of the shop. I don't have 1800 dollars burning a hole in my pocket and that price sounds steep but maybe I don't know what they are selling for these days. Looked like a really nice revolver.