173gr Keith in 19-4?

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Will it fit in the cylinder with .357 brass?

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The only issue I've had with those bullets in 357 is I have to seat them a little deeper than the crimp groove, otherwise the tip of the bullet sticks out past the face of the cylinder, not by much, but enough to keep the gun from cycling.

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They should fit. You can run into problems with large front driving bands if they aren't seated deep enough or if you have a lot of fouling build up near the throat. If your having problems these are the first things I would check.
 
There are a lot of different "Keith design" 173- grain SWCs, depending on bullet manufacturer. The original Keith carried most of the weight forward so there was more room for powder, but he also had a wide meplat, which allowed the bullet to be somewhat shorter. But Lyman and others have monkeyed with Elmer's original design off and on for many years.

So in a word, yes, they SHOULD fit. But sometimes one size does not fit all. That is exactly why some designs have two crimp grooves, and others have to crimp over the front driving band, as has already been mentioned.
 
I am shooting a 200 grain round nose in my 19-3 with great success. 9.3 of 2400 with a mag primer has a lot less kick than a factory 357 round. It sticks out of the case gauge a little but still below the cylinder. I did resize them to my cylinder size of .357. I was able to crimp in the normal crimp groove. This is a National bullet no longer made. I do have some 173 grain but have not tried them yet. I think this goes in reloading?
 
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If you are talking about Lymans 358429 ( very close to the original Keith bullet for 357's) then yes , they will fit just fine . I have shot a lot of them , crimped in the crimp groove in 19's , 66's , 586 , 686 , 681 etc .
There are folks out there selling molds and folks selling cast bullets supposedly the " Keith bullet " in 357 . I saw several that had the crimp groove raised (which shortens the nose length) to fit more 357's , lowering the case capacity . The Lyman is a very good bullet and the only one I will consider using . The knock offs are just that , " knock offs " and not even close to the original spec's . Some even have a shorter , fat nose . Again trying to accomodate anyones 357 . Those become just a 170 gr swc , nothing more and nothing special about them . If you really want the Keith bullet , 173 gr swc , buy the lyman mold ..........
 
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The Lyman is a very good bullet and the only one I will consider using . The knock offs are just that , " knock offs " and not even close to the original spec's . If you really want the Keith bullet , 173 gr swc , buy the lyman mold ..........

Uh, not really. The present day Lyman 358429 does not have the same spec's as EK's original mold had, so it is also a "knock off".

Don
 
Thanks everyone! I'm going to give them a try.
 
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