19-3 in punta box

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Just was offered to buy a NIB 19-3 4 inch still
In the box with wax wrap and paper work and tools.

Can anyone tell me approx current value and year made?

Serial K784**
 
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Yes, for a 19-3 the serial would have to have six digits.

K784xxx would be from 1968.

With the 4" barrel and assuming a blue finish, the price should be right around $700.
 
I have a 19-3 with ser# 7K77765 that was shipped June 1976. Check the number again.
 
If it is a 19-3 as noted above and the serial starts with a K it should be followed by 6 digits. If that is the case and it is K784*** it would be from 1968.
 
Agree with Jack on the price, if in really good condition I might pay just a bit more.
 
Just saw a 2 1/2 inch blue model 19-3 at a local pawn shop the other day priced at $750.00 and in great shape (no box or papers). They wouldn't budge a bit on the price. So with tax OTD would be $825.00. Too much for me. Said he just put it out and it would be gone in less than a week.
 
I've been looking for a 19-x 6" for a few months. A friend of mine wanted one after shooting my model 19-4 LAPD commemorative. We just couldn't find one in nice condition with the box! I ended up selling my gun in the case, key and emblem for $800 as a favor. In Cali this revolver and model lightly fired 99% is an easy 1k gun. Just sayin...
 
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Just saw a 2 1/2 inch blue model 19-3 at a local pawn shop the other day priced at $750.00 and in great shape (no box or papers). They wouldn't budge a bit on the price. So with tax OTD would be $825.00. Too much for me. Said he just put it out and it would be gone in less than a week.

Not surprising. The short barrel Combat Magnum, especially the -3, will nearly always draw a premium price. Early -4 examples will act the same way.

Here's one I stole (um . . . bought cheaply) several years ago. Paid $425 OTD.
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Pinned and recessed New in the box 4 " blue , I'd say $ 800 is in the ball park. Could go up or down a hundred bucks either way , depending on the seller and buyer . but a good estimate would be in the $ 775-$ 900 range.
Less than 1 % of the P & R guns out there have survived in NIB condition, so, a pretty rare find for a once not so rare gun. Condition is everything , and can take a "common" gun and elevate it's collectability to a whole different level. Most people that luck in to these deals go out and shoot them , it happens every day . That makes the value of the remaining "new in the box' guns even greater .

If the gun in question had been nickel 4" , we'd call that one at $ 1,000 .
Had it been a blue 2 1/2 ….$ 1,000 ..and a nickel 2 1/2 NIB $ 1,350 .

NIB = $$$ ,and of course 2 1/2" barrel would a premium over 4"
and Nickel carries a premium over blue.


Lewis
President of the Smith & Wesson preservation society
 
Pinned and recessed New in the box 4 " blue , I'd say $ 800 is in the ball park. Could go up or down a hundred bucks either way , depending on the seller and buyer . but a good estimate would be in the $ 775-$ 900 range.
Less than 1 % of the P & R guns out there have survived in NIB condition, so, a pretty rare find for a once not so rare gun. Condition is everything , and can take a "common" gun and elevate it's collectability to a whole different level. Most people that luck in to these deals go out and shoot them , it happens every day . That makes the value of the remaining "new in the box' guns even greater .

If the gun in question had been nickel 4" , we'd call that one at $ 1,000 .
Had it been a blue 2 1/2 ….$ 1,000 ..and a nickel 2 1/2 NIB $ 1,350 .

NIB = $$$ ,and of course 2 1/2" barrel would a premium over 4"
and Nickel carries a premium over blue.


Lewis
President of the Smith & Wesson preservation society

Lewis' analysis.. I would agree with almost 100% There are no buts. This is a good pricing guide for at least this part of this year.
 
And can anyone tell me what the correct grips should be on this gun ?

It could be magnas with or without diamonds, as I believe 1968 was the year diamonds went away. They may or may not be numbered to the gun. They could also be target stocks, that I doubt will be numbered to the gun.

Does this gun have a target hammer and trigger? If so it no doubt would have come with target grips
 
The correct stocks would be checkered target made of Goncalo alves. The serial number dates the 19-3 to right around the time the diamond around the escutcheon and escutcheon nut was deleted, so either could be correct.

If the 19-3 was shipped in 1969, the stocks would not have the diamond.

Bill
 
Dogmann

Bill is correct. The Model 19-3 4" would have shipped with Target stocks made of GA. In 1968, they could be either the diamond type or not. In '68, both types were shipping, but in my experience, by 1968, non-diamonds were more common. As he stated, by '69 diamonds were gone.
 
Most places around here would put a NIB with everything Model 19-3 out at $1100. It might sit for a while, but would probably sell.

$850 or less wouldn't last out the day in a busy shop.
 
What stocks ? Target? Did they ever come from the factory with pachmayer targets?
 
The Model 19 came standard with Target stocks, except for the 2 1/2" barrel variant. It came with Magna stocks (see my picture above).

In 1977, there is about a 99% chance it came with Target stocks having the extractor relief (football) and made of Goncalo Alves. The only reason it wouldn't have would be if someone ordered it with Magna stocks. Highly unlikely.

No, they did not ship from the S&W factory with Pachmayr rubber stuff. :rolleyes:

Added: Why are we going through this again? This was covered nicely by Bill (Doc44) in Post #14 above, and affirmed in my followup in Post #15. The only difference now is that in 1977, the diamond was long gone. But that was mentioned in 14 & 15 also.

We are always ready to help, but when you come back to a thread you started 2 weeks earlier, perhaps it would be good if you read all the responses that have already been posted. You'll learn a lot that way. :)
 
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