1911 issue in re "condition" of carry

[ron 57]

Condition 1 side effect

Many years ago the police department I worked for decided to allow officers to carry non-issued sidearms provided they were carried in proper belt gear and they qualified with them. One officer had a commercial Colt government model and went through the process to be allowed to carry it on duty. One night he and I got dispatched to a family argument at the local hospital. Apparently some past bad blood had resurfaced and six or seven people were going at in the ER waiting room. My wife, who was working at the hospital that night had tried to calm them down but to no avail. It didn’t take long to separate the men but the women were determined to settle the score then and there. Both had to be physically restrained and eventually cuffed. During the fracas one woman noticed the hammer was back on the holstered Colt(as it should have been). She immediately began screaming that the trigger happy cops were ready to shoot them. This brought the menfolk and a couple of additional kin back into the fight. Eventually peace was restored and no arrests were made.
The next morning however the woman called our chief and made known her displeasure at seeing the big pistol ready to fire. Non standard arms were quickly banned and the officer had to go back to his .357 revolver.

 

[Fishslayer]

The 1911 is the way it is because the US Government wanted it that way, not because Browning wanted it that way. Hence Condition 1, which the 1910 couldn't even do, was not "the way Browning designed it".

That was always my understanding. The .mil is usually pretty specific in their requesitions.

I've watched professionals practice the Israeli draw. Not anything I would like to try under duress, especially now with my neuropathic hands and "old man skin."

The next morning however the woman called our chief and made known her displeasure at seeing the big pistol ready to fire. Non standard arms were quickly banned and the officer had to go back to his .357 revolver.

Well, there ya go. Perfect argument for a 4506.

 

[Jessie]

The manuals have survived and have been referenced in this thread a couple of times.
Copies are readily available online.

Here's the summary of the original manuals:

Condition 3



(Sorry for selectively editing your post, I only wanted to address the latter portion)

Thanks, you’re right and I missed the links. I see that on page 25 that it’s to be carried with an empty chamber unless “on campaign” when it should be carried condition 1 in the hand or holster.
Not sure if that actually answers the question though since in civilian life, when are you “ on campaign “?
On some streets and locales that could be interpreted as all the time.