1911s & JHPs

my .02 - it just sounded like KKG was sending out a warning to the O.P.

shrug

FOr the O.P. try various types of JHps and if you find a certain type that don't feed reliably - stay with ones that do work. You won't know till you try some in YOUR particular .45 ACP. FWIW - my SW1911 5" Bbl.
Stainless steel, seems to feed most everything
FMJ, various JHPs, as well as SWC,i've let cleaning go - too many rounds like 400+ only FTF, never had an FTE WHen cleaning I make sure to really clean the feed ramp area.

Randall
 
Eh. Waffling motion with hand. I just use FMJ in my .45s. Why? I deliberately want 18" or so of penetration, which is exactly what .45 FMJ gives. The original IWBA standard was *not* 12", it was 18". I don't feel that I'm missing out on much and thus stock only FMJs in .45 despite having a 1911 as well as more "modern" designs from Glock and H&K. FMJs are cheap, I've got plenty of them, and I know my guns work with them.

In recent years, both Chuck Taylor ("old school") and Clint Smith ("newish school") have had good things to say about good old .45 ball.

Anyway, all other things being equal, there is somewhat of a greater chance of a 1911 type auto possibly having problems with JHPs than some other designs. Some of the 3" and other micro 1911s seem to be particularly problematic. If your gun runs only with FMJ, or you simply like FMJs, it's nothing to fret too much over.
 
My 2 cents. Can you believe i can't find a cent symbol on my keyboard. Inflation I guess. I CCW a semi auto only after the following ritual. First I won't carry anthing less than a 3.9 too 4.2 inch barrel. I won't bother you with the brands I've tried and had feed ramp jams on 3 inchers or so.
1, first I fire 200 rounds of RNL at about 800+ FPS. beau coup cheaper the same in jackets. Then I buy one box of 230GR gold dots, one box on REM golden sabers, one box of WW PDX1 One box of XTP's (hand loads @ +- 830FPS and Hydr shocks if (big if) I can find them. I mark my mag base pads with filed grooves to isolate if it's a magazine problem. and try them all once in each mag. And go from there. They all kill a bad guy dead with a center mass or head shot(dumb statistical odds on head shots but certain one shot stops when required. Just my anal retentive frugal method.
 
Originally posted by GatorFarmer:
Eh. Waffling motion with hand. I just use FMJ in my .45s. Why? I deliberately want 18" or so of penetration, which is exactly what .45 FMJ gives. The original IWBA standard was *not* 12", it was 18". I don't feel that I'm missing out on much and thus stock only FMJs in .45 despite having a 1911 as well as more "modern" designs from Glock and H&K. FMJs are cheap, I've got plenty of them, and I know my guns work with them.

In recent years, both Chuck Taylor ("old school") and Clint Smith ("newish school") have had good things to say about good old .45 ball.

Anyway, all other things being equal, there is somewhat of a greater chance of a 1911 type auto possibly having problems with JHPs than some other designs. Some of the 3" and other micro 1911s seem to be particularly problematic. If your gun runs only with FMJ, or you simply like FMJs, it's nothing to fret too much over.

I'm glad to hear somebody say this. 1911s do feed 230 gr FMJ best and most reliably. The manual for my Kimber explicitly states this. I don't imagine any BG hit with good shot placement from a 230 FMJ is going to be thinking "glad it wasn't a hollowpoint".
 
Originally posted by flop-shank:
That has been posted here before. The section on the .44 magnum is silly, but there is a lot of useful info there.

Yeah, I was the one that linked it before, and I remember you took issue with his choice of .44 Magnum round (300 grain Hornady JHP/XTP) as best for SD, at least against two legged predators. I went through a box of those in my 329 NG, and it wasn't much fun after six rounds.
 
Frankly, it was the Colt 1911 platform and hollowpoint bullets that resulted in my becoming a dedicated defensive revolver shooter. I have come to the conclusion that the ideal handgun for the .45 ACP cartridge is the S&W Model 625.

Dave Sinko
 
Originally posted by babarracing:
My 2 cents. Can you believe i can't find a cent symbol on my keyboard.

Here you go...

Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map > ¢ Select, copy and paste.

Back before AmmoLab went to requiring a paid subscription to view their reviews, they reported that WWB Personal Protection 230-gr JHPs performed on par with many "premium" loads, including having low flash properties.
 
Well guess what. I had multiple jams/feed failures with a box of Independence 230 gr FMJ which was all my local range had yesterday. Not only that it was horribly inaccurate, even for me. So even ball ammo can cause problems at times. This stuff even looked bad. Anyway, a learning experience about what ammo not to use.
 
FWIW...I've seen a lot of stoppages with factory hardball in various 1911's.The causes vary but whenever I hear voiced opinions about the almost certain reliability of factory hardball,I shake my head in wonder.
 
FWIW, I've got a Taurus PT1911 that has just gone over 500 rds down the pipe and it has digested every type of HP I've tried. Taurus manufactured 185GR HP, and Federal 230GR HSTs, P45HST2, which mushrooms in a most nasty manner! Never had a problem as far as FTF or FTE with any of them. But gotta agree, try your "carry" ammo for at least 100rds just to make sure and then stick with it. I don't have a CCW right now but my Taurus is close to the front door with 8rds of the Federal "230GR shut the hell up!" loaded at all times!
 

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