1937 Brazilian, spring loaded pin in crane (lots of photos)

[StrawHat]

Lee, this is the best photo I have at hand. I'll take a better one when I get home. I think this would be considered rounded from what I can see.

Lee is asking about the sight groove I believe. Most of the first shipment were the Model 1917 Commercial and had the square notch rear sight. Those built on the leftover WWI frames had the round notch rear sight.

Here is an image of the square rear sight.

Kevin

 

[StrawHat]

I seem to have misplaced the image for the Historical Letter concerning the Brazilian Model. Does anyone have one they could share?

Mine came from Val Forgett, if I remember correctly, he copied the one he paid for and sent them to the buyers of the 1917s imported by Service Armament.

Kevin

 

[Borderboss]

Is the top of the frame flat or rounded?
A pic would be good.

Here's the best I can seem to do with my setup right now. I hope it helps.

 

[Borderboss]

Lee is asking about the sight groove I believe. Most of the first shipment were the Model 1917 Commercial and had the square notch rear sight. Those built on the leftover WWI frames had the round notch rear sight.

Here is an image of the square rear sight.

Kevin

Mine has a square notch.

 

[Wiregrassguy]

That's a flat top. The little flat areas on either side of the trough are later manufacture. The WWI 1917s did not have that flat area. Maybe these pictures can illustrate.

 

[Hondo44]

That's a flat top. The little flat areas on either side of the trough are later manufacture. The WWI 1917s did not have that flat area. Maybe these pictures can illustrate.

Just so no one gets confused, the nickeled example which is a round top frame has had it's tiny U notch rear sight filed square before it was plated.

Round tops have the U notch and flat tops have the square notch.

An unmolested rd top U notch:

Photo by Tenntex32

 

[Borderboss]

That's a flat top. The little flat areas on either side of the trough are later manufacture. The WWI 1917s did not have that flat area. Maybe these pictures can illustrate.

Thanks very much for the explanation!

 

[VaTom]

The best thing about the pre war "cyl hold open detent" is that it's so easy to add to a later revolver that doesn't have that feature. Original parts are available but also simple to cut pin stock to length and substitute a spring.

Great advice in this thread and others regarding 1917 cylinder hold open detent. I bought my 1917 Commercial (late 1920's model) at a local auction in 2016. It had been refinished in the past sometime and along the way it's the spring and detent plunger pin were lost. Following advice of members I made a new pin from a drill bit shank and used the flint spring from a BIC lighter. Took a bit to get the spring the right length and the pin shaped and polished but it works.

Thanks for alll the expert advice!

 

[StrawHat]

Many on this forum know that I sort of like the 4", 45 ACP, N frame revolver. The problem is, before the introduction of the ACP Mountain Gun and the Model 22-4, they were very rare to scarce. So, what to do?

Indeed, you build your own! The first one I shot was in the 70's and I liked it. I built my first one in the late 70s or early 80s. I cut the barrel and sweated on a cut nickel for the front sight. That one, and the next 5 or 6 I built, got sold or traded off when the right deal came along.

The one pictured is still in my possession and likely will remain with me.

I still carry it on occasion but my edc is a 4" Model 22-4. A modern rendition of my old warhorse.

Kevin

 

[deyomatic]

Here's mine...

 

[StrawHat]

Here's mine...

Interesting! One of the shortest barrels I have seen on a Model 1917. And, whoever did it, had the ejector rod shortened also. Will that short rod clear the empties if held with the barrel other the plumb? It looks just long enough.

Kevin

 

[Dutch51]

s/n 195686

 

[deyomatic]

Interesting! One of the shortest barrels I have seen on a Model 1917. And, whoever did it, had the ejector rod shortened also. Will that short rod clear the empties if held with the barrel other the plumb? It looks just long enough.

Kevin

It does!...the barrel is about 2 1/16"my only complaint is accuracy...but you get what you pay for! I can't remember but I think it's low and right from 7 yards. It looks like an M&P Snubby...until you hold it in your hand!

 

[Hondo44]

It does!...the barrel is about 2 1/16"my only complaint is accuracy...but you get what you pay for! I can't remember but I think it's low and right from 7 yards. It looks like an M&P Snubby...until you hold it in your hand!

Well if it always shoots low and right, it is accurate. It just needs a little sight tweaking to move its accuracy up into the center of the target,