1958 Model 18 no dash

[The bucket]

I have the opertunity to pick up this Model 18 no dash. Need everones opinion on value as I am far from am expert. He says it was made in 1958. It has some holster wear around the muzzle, cylinder line, amd I think the grips are not original as there is no diamonds on the grips.
It has a target trigger, and target hammer
He wants to trade for my Colt 1911. What would the value of this old Model 18 be? Does this model of gun have any collected value? Not am expert on Smith Revolvers would love everyone's opinio

 

[Breakaway500]

Beauty! Birth year gun for me so Id pay a tiny bit more for it. $750-$900 and since Im not a 1911 fan (oh the horror!) Id trade in a second.

 

[alwslate]

Looks like it might be re-blued. Need larger pics to be sure. Your Colt 1911 is almost certainly worth at least $200 more than the Mod18. Grips are not original. I wouldn't trade if I were you.

 

[Narragansett]

What is your Colt 1911? Year, model, condition? No right way to make that comparison without more info.

 

[The bucket]

The Colt is a M1991A1 made in 1994. No box. Good gun, but not perfect.

What makes you thi k it is a Re-Blue? Want to know what to look for if I get my eyes on it.

 

[22hipower]

If you want a great 22 revolver make the trade, sounds like values are about even to me. Nothing special about a 1911 from 1994.

Jeff
SWCA #1457

 

[The bucket]

I have a YouTube channel, and once I do a video on a gun, I trade it for new content. So if it is re-blued what is the value, and what is the value if it is original am.

 

[JP@AK]

What makes you think it is a Re-Blue? Want to know what to look for if I get my eyes on it.

I don't see anything in your photos to indicate that the revolver was refinished, but a larger photo of the right side would help. Usually, the best indicator is the fit of the side plate. If the seams are tight, most likely the finish is original - unless there are other signs, like blued hammer and/or trigger. Again, I don't see any of those things in your pictures.

As for the Model 1991A1 from the mid-1990s, I once owned five of them. Still have three. There isn't a darn thing wrong with them and all the parts interchange with war-time Colt 1911A1 pistols that I own or have owned.

That said, the appreciation in value of a four screw Model 18 is likely to outstrip the appreciation of a Model 1991A1 over time. That may be something you want to consider in any trade negotiations.

 

[Model19man]

Condition is the key. If the 1990's era 1911 is in reasonably good condition and the revolver you are trading for is in similar condition the value is about the same for both. So trade for what you want.

 

[stang1911]

I don't see anything in your photos to indicate that the revolver was refinished, but a larger photo of the right side would help. Usually, the best indicator is the fit of the side plate. If the seams are tight, most likely the finish is original - unless there are other signs, like blued hammer and/or trigger. Again, I don't see any of those things in your pictures.

As for the Model 1991A1 from the mid-1990s, I once owned five of them. Still have three. There isn't a darn thing wrong with them and all the parts interchange with war-time Colt 1911A1 pistols that I own or have owned.

That said, the appreciation in value of a four screw Model 18 is likely to outstrip the appreciation of a Model 1991A1 over time. That may be something you want to consider in any trade negotiations.

What in the photos tells you it's a four screw?

 

[JP@AK]

What in the photos tells you it's a four screw?

Nothing. But the stamp in the yoke cut agrees with the claim that it is a Model 18 from c. 1958. That alone means it has a four screw frame. The fourth screw was eliminated with the advent of the Model 18-2 in 1961.

 

[alwslate]

The Colt is a M1991A1 made in 1994. No box. Good gun, but not perfect.

What makes you thi k it is a Re-Blue? Want to know what to look for if I get my eyes on it.

Looks like some dishing of the side plate screws. S&W emblem on the side plate looks a little thin. The .22 LR lettering on the barrel looks to maybe have been buffed. Hard to tell from those pics. Good close up pics would help.

 

[AudieMurphy]

the 1911 is worth more by at least $200. without seeing it. that .22 is about a $600 gun. Posters are relating a 'collectors' gun....its not

 

[ken158]

Looks like it might be re-blued. Need larger pics to be sure. Your Colt 1911 is almost certainly worth at least $200 more than the Mod18. Grips are not original. I wouldn't trade if I were you.

I see nothing on the 18 that makes it look re-blued. It obviously spent time in a holster and likely why the grips were changed. You did not give enough info on your Colt to consider a value. Is it “just” a Govt Model? How is the finish, etc. Yes - the model 18 date of 1958 is confirmed.

 

[The bucket]

The M1991A1 is an entry level Government. I think I am going to pop on the Model 18. Hopefully it is a 700 to 800 dollar gun. I will send better pictures when I pick it up.

 

[Dvus]

I see nothing in the pics indicating a refinish. It's in shooter condition and real world value is between $650 to $800 with geographic fluctuation. I personally would spend at the upper end of that scale if I were in the market for an 18 of that vintage. Some people value guns at what THEY would want to spend on it, and they never want to pay what a gun will bring at market.

 

[The bucket]

Picked it up. The lockup is super tight. And while it does have some holster wear the bluing is still nice. Thoughts?

 

[Breakaway500]

Well done! And no reblue for sure with those new photos. Very nice!!

 

[Dvus]

ATABOY! 18s with target hammer and triggers arehard to come by. Either someone installed them, or it was special ordered that way, but the result is the same. Get a set of target stocks on it now.
Carried more than shot, look at all that blue still left on the ejector rod!

 

[LostintheOzone]

The Colt is a M1991A1 made in 1994. No box. Good gun, but not perfect.

What makes you thi k it is a Re-Blue? Want to know what to look for if I get my eyes on it.

I had a 1991-A1 and sold it for ~$600 a few years ago. Probably worth $700 these days but they were certainly nothing to write home about. The least expensive Colt 1911 when they were made.

I think a strait across trade would be fair mostly because I don't have a model 18 and I've had plenty of Colt 1911's. Still have a few.