.22 crimped vs. plastic crowned

[rimfired]

Don't come here often. So if this has been discussed please forgive. Gettin old and forgetful.

I grew-up using crimped. Last few years plastic. Both LR and Mag. Understand both are still mfg.

Any input would be appreciated.

I use the mags for snakes. The LR for discretion tree rats.

Thanks!

 

[Nevada Ed]

50 years ago I shot the .22 LR crimped at a black bird walking on the ground twenty feet away................out of a rifle.

I don't know what happened........... but the bird jumped up, flew over seven feet or so, landed and kept feeding.

Maybe it was made for a six foot shot !!

Never used them again.

 

[Skeetr57]

I have used both, and killed poisonous snakes with both, but once the CCI plastic encapsulated shot came out, I prefer them, as the shot is larger. I've never had a problem killing a snake with either, but I have always been under 10' from the target, and usually half that distance.

 

[rimfired]

They are made for close encounters. I was wondering if anybody had any ballistics info comparing. Thanks for the replys!

 

[chief38]

I have both but have never tested them ballistically. The reason for that is for .22 shot shells to be effective you've got to be very close and use them on very small animals. I've not had great luck with them and have not shot them at animals in years - hence my lack of testing and interest. Most of my shooting (even for pest control) has been done at distances far beyond their capabilities and I now use .22 Hi Velocity 40 grain ammo which is dead on.

Lately I have been using the shot shells (both crimped & capped) for ariel shots from a Colt Scout shooting at clay birds hand thrown. At least I am having fun......

 

[gmiller0737]

The CCI Offering Seems to be a little more powerful in My experience the crimped end type do seem to be the least noisy of the 2 if noise is of concern.

 

[brucev]

Have used the CCI plastic tip .22 LR ammo for snakes. Works well. Shoots were no more than six to seven feet. On a different note... have used the CCI plastic tip .38/.357 and .44 Spec./Mag. ammunition with extremely excellent results on snakes. Aim at the head, it purely shreds the head, very effective.

 

[Andy Griffith]

I did a test some time ago on these with rifles, smoothbores and handguns- here is what I found:

In a smoothbore Remington bolt .22 rifle designed for shot, the crimped shot is the most powerful, longest range and has the most consistent pattern. Effective "range" with the smoothbore was the longest- about 15 yards. The CCI capsule did not consistently pattern at all out of the smoothbore.

Winchester 62A pump: Both shot fairly well, but patterns were not consistent. The CCI was slightly better patterning, but with less shot that hit the target, and it also seemed less powerful. About 8-10 yards was effective range.

Browning buck mark 5": Neither ammo functioned the slide, but the crimped shot seemed slightly better in power and performance. but was a bit harder to extract manually. Effective range @ 4 yards.

Beretta 21A with right spring removed: The CCI would function the action and I could shoot a mag full with no problems! Patterns open very quickly, but likely still effective on a snake if closer than 8 feet.

The moral of the story is- rifling is detrimental to shotshells, but we have to do with what we have.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Well not snakes , but I have seriously used handgun shotshells for trophy sized rats inside my barn. Effective patterning is measured in single digit feet. With .22WMR low single digit feet. The rat was unimpressed , and ran off seemingly at full speed.

OTOH , CCI .45Colt (not acp) shotshells are deadly on big rats from diagonally across a 10'x12' horse stall (minus the length of my arm). Probably enough energy/pellet for a bit more , but pattern is getting gaps any farther than that.

And incase anyone is considering normal defensive ammo for vermin control , don't use 9mm +P+ inside a small barn w/o ear protection. Just saying.

 

[Bkreutz]

My Uncle had a old .22 rifle that he had bored out and a smoothbore liner installed. It was deadly for shooting rats in the hay loft with shot shells without putting holes in the roof. I tried the same shells in a regular rifled .22 and didn't even penetrate paper at 20'. I think the rifling spreads the pattern out to dust. Pretty graphic impression on my 12 year old mind at the time.