.22 LR Ammo

I have not seen any but have not looked hard and am not buying any since I have plenty. I would leave it for others. I bought while there was plenty at a good price. Everyone should have after this same thing just happened 10 years ago and 22 ammo was the hardest one to find. Short memories I guess.
 
You should have told him, that it is being held for you and that you were there to pickit up, per a phone call.

Got to step it up a notch, to beat those ammo horders.

Good luck on the next try.

The guy only had 2000 rounds at home. I wouldn't call him a Hoarder. 2000 rounds is more like a prudent reserve. Barely.
 
I have seen some note that $0.10 per round for decent-good Cci is too high, and that is fine. For others like myself, I’ll gladly pay a dime if needed to stock up or restock as needed. As this is not only a hobby for myself, but my grandson has taken it up as well. So I find that sort of pricing well worth having fun and helping him learn at the same time.
I actually started this hobby roughly 10 years ago and was caught in the “I need rimfire but refuse to buy from resellers” mindset. As I am today. If a manufacturer or legit retailer has ammo but (for many reasons) it is higher today than pre-covid/election then so be it. That I can deal with so I can continue to enjoy shooting. I’m not getting any younger so wont just stop shooting until things get back to normal.
Who knows when that may happen. And what that normal may be.
Just my .02
 
I have over 20,000 rounds of .22LR. I got it at a very good price years ago. I think it was 80 cents a box. I only shoot it to say hello to any rattlesnakes that I find on my property.
 
I personally can't condemn scalpers, either you have free market or you don't. If my local gas station pays $3 a gallon for what's in the tanks and then prices fall to $2.50 average, they can drop the price and take a loss or keep it high and perhaps not make a living, the prices rise to $4 a gallon and they make a solid profit. They have to make it even out or they don't stay in business. I don't know what sort of deal a person or business made to come up with product so I can choose to buy or not, knowing that my choice influences the marketplace ever so slightly.
No sense complaining about it unless you want a different system.
Near then end of the last shortage I stocked up pretty solidly on .22. It seemed cheap at the time but waiting 6-months would have saved me an easy 25%, which I might have felt a little bad about when prices were low, then felt a little smug when they got crazy again. I think we can all agree ammo is a commodity and will experience commodity price variations, you buy and sell that commodity at your own peril.
I contend that if you want to keep shooting in the bad times and the good that it's prudent to keep some decent stock on the shelves.

Saying “you either have a free market or you don’t” is like saying “you can shoot people or you can’t”. It just isn’t that simple. For example what about self defense?

Having a free market also isn’t as simple as just having unrestrained no holds barred capitalism. We probably all agree that monopolies inhibit a free market as the single or small group of sellers can set the price. Avoiding monopolies is one of the reasons we have commerce regulations.

Let’s step away from .22 LR ammo for a minute and talk toilet paper. About 15 months ago a guy and his wife rolled up to the local Walmart and loaded up 15 cases of toilet paper. They’d talked to the manager and bought every roll they had in stock. This was at the very start of the toilet paper panic. They created a spot shortage and he and others like him or panicked by the sudden reduction in toilet paper availability created a panic that in turn ensure was hard to find for months. During this period of time I have no doubt that guy and his wife sold TP on line for a large profit.

I suppose we call all applaud him and others like him nation wide for taking advantage of the situation, cornering their local toilet paper markets and starting a panic that ensured demand outstripped supply, so they could make a quick buck. (Even though absolutely nothing about COVID 19 increased the need or reduced production of TP.). After all that sunrestrined capitalism totally unhinged from any social contract or obligation to your community. That’s a good thing right?

Of course it’s not. It’s not only unethical and immoral to create a crisis during a larger on going crisis, it is also about as unsocial and as frankly as unpatriotic as it gets. Remember the concept of hang together or hang separately and it’s roots in our revolutionary days. Our founding fathers would not be impressed with hoarding in a crisis.

Back to .22 LR, you can look at the same 3 or 4 guys who stalk the local stores, know when the trucks are unloaded and stand in line to buy up all the ammo they can and call them enterprising entrepreneurs. You cannot however say they represent or support a free market. Once again, like the local TP magnate with his 15 cases of toilet paper, they are looking to corner the local ammo market so that they can re-sell it at a 400% markup at the next guns how. Like the TP guy, they are of course assisted by the people they’ve panic who quickly snap up anything they’ve n
Been unable to purchase to keep demand high enough that people will pay their outrageous prices. And it works because people won’t work together to just say “no thanks, at that price you obviously want it about 4 times more than we do”.

However that kind of ammo scalping is not free trade or a free market any more than De Beers controlling the world diamond supply or OPEC setting oil prices is “free market”.

Yet people make claims like that all the time as they’ve been conditioned to believe that anything less than totally unrestrained capitalism is something less than a free market and, as you have stated that it’s a binary choice - we either have it or we don’t - when in fact a free market economy exists in an environment with enough regulation to ensure it’s truly a free market that isn’t abused or cornered by folks with the money or position needed to set prices and control markets, whether it is on a local or national scale.
 
I have over 20,000 rounds of .22LR. I got it at a very good price years ago. I think it was 80 cents a box. I only shoot it to say hello to any rattlesnakes that I find on my property.

I also have over 20,000 rds of .22 LR at home. I’m not a hoarder that by some distorted logic is to blame for a shortage of reasonably priced .22 ammo. It was purchased over a period of several years when prices were low. I never cease to be amazed that supposedly savvy members on here have NO .22 LR ammo and are lamenting today’s high prices. How could anybody not see this situation coming :eek:
 
I also have over 20,000 rds of .22 LR at home. I’m not a hoarder that by some distorted logic is to blame for a shortage of reasonably priced .22 ammo. It was purchased over a period of several years when prices were low. I never cease to be amazed that supposedly savvy members on here have NO .22 LR ammo and are lamenting today’s high prices. How could anybody not see this situation coming :eek:

Hoarders stack their ammo on pallets.
 
I'd like to reiterate my earlier post, just for effect (again)...

If you want to get the prices lower, there is only ONE WAY to do it:

DON'T BUY

Discipline is hard for the herd, but you CAN DO IT. The herd can rationalize anything.... !!

IMHO of course,

J.
 
Tears for Fears

I also have over 20,000 rds of .22 LR at home. I’m not a hoarder that by some distorted logic is to blame for a shortage of reasonably priced .22 ammo. It was purchased over a period of several years when prices were low. I never cease to be amazed that supposedly savvy members on here have NO .22 LR ammo and are lamenting today’s high prices. How could anybody not see this situation coming :eek:

I did the same. I’m not reselling or trading my Hoarded supply.
I have no sympathy for those that didn’t. An emergency on
your part doesn’t constitute sympathy on my part.

The Best to you and your Endeavors.
 
Speaking of 22 Ammo-
One of you guys mentioned the new Gee Whiz Federal Punch.
I like Gee Whiz!
The only place I could actually find any was direct from Federal.
$10.99 a box. Box of 50!
So I punched in - get it? - 2 boxes.
Plus $12 postage.
OMG ! That’s $33.98 . For 100 Rounds.
Like 34 cents a round!
I recently paid that much for 9mm.
Want to try it in the problematic Beretta 21a.
But not sure I want to shoot 22 at 34 Cents a Round!
 

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