22 revolver question

[Poncho Catalina]

Hi
I picked up a Taurus 94 22 revolver in a trade. The da pull is rather stout . From what I have read this is the way these revolvers are, if you change springs it causes FTF. My question is are the S&W 22 revolvers similar?
Thanks
Poncho

 

[Pisgah]

In my experience, my Kit Gun has probably just as heavy a trigger pull as the Taurus, but much smoother. I wouldn't lighten the spring on any small-frame .22 -- it's asking for trouble, even more so than with a small-frame centerfire.

 

[H Richard]

I also won't change a "mainspring" in any S&W revolver, but I will change the trigger return spring to a 14 lb. This does reduce the effective effort it takes to pull the trigger. Any S&W is head and shoulders above a Taurus in the smoothness of the trigger pull.

 

[Cardboard_killer]

Rimfire ammunition has a tendency to misfire due to the way it is primed. A stout blow is necessary.

Having said that, you can replace the mainspring with a lighter spring. You may not have any misfires, or you may have to return to the original spring. The springs aren't expensive, so I say, go for it.

I have a 63, and use a reduced power mainspring with no problems.

 

[snubbiefan]

You can change the mainspring. Every 22 I have from a 317 to a Taurus 94 can be re-sprung without any issues, if the rest of the gun is slicked-out. I have an 8-pound hammer spring in a 94 and the 317 and have never had any issues. The problem with the Taurus is that it does not lend itself to a reduced power rebound spring....it has no rebound slide. You generally have to "make' one work if you want to try. Look for hammer and trigger rubs and don't overlook the firing-pin spring. Taurus is notorious for over-springing the 22 and the 22-mag.....especially the 941. Open it up, dump-out the mill-shavings, clean the grease and gunk off the internals, polish-out the rubs and you can put an 8 or 9 pound Wolff hammer spring in there. I believe the stock spring is something like 12-pounds on the 94.

 

[varmint243]

I put a spring kit in my 94 with no problems
IMO misfires in the current 22 bulk ammo isn't unusual, no matter what gun/spring you are using

Maybe I'm lucky and got a good one, my 94 is a nice little gun
OTOH I traded my tracker in

 

[snubbiefan]

I've mentioned this a time-or-two here on the forum before. Sounds like a"Bubba" gunsmith trick, but it works.....especially on a Taurus. S&W does not manufacture their own springs. Like most other manufacturers (I'm pretty sure) those are outsourced. You can go down to the Ace Hardware store and buy springs for around 60-cents each and cut them off to suit your needs. I believe the common j-frame and Taurus is a #1, but I'm not sure. Take your stock hammer-spring along and get a hardware spring the same size. Start out with it longer than it should be and then clip-a-coil at a time until you get what your looking for and the gun still goes bang. Get two springs....clip one until it doesn't shoot, then size the other to fit. I would likely not do this on my carry piece, but for fun-n-games....you can tune away and they are reliable.

 

[Poncho Catalina]

Thanks for the replies. I was concerned that I got the short end of the deal. I think I will open it up, clean it out and polish it up a little. I will try some lighter springs, they are cheap, and go from there. I am not expecting much, just something to play around with.
Poncho

 

[Lou_NC]

I put a spring kit in my 94 with no problems
IMO misfires in the current 22 bulk ammo isn't unusual, no matter what gun/spring you are using

Maybe I'm lucky and got a good one, my 94 is a nice little gun
OTOH I traded my tracker in

My experience with my 94 has been identical! I bought mine in 1993 when I couldn't afford a model 63 kit gun. (Now I can afford a model 63 but I won't pay the asking prices for what I consider a knocking around woods gun, and I actually like my Taurus 94 better than the 63 since it's a 9-shot). I used a Wolff spring kit in mine and it's never failed to fire. The spring kit made HUGE difference in trigger pull. I haven't polished the action yet........maybe someday!

Lou

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[snubbiefan]

Not trying to make this an "other brand" thread, but we are all gun-nuts here and I think we all prefer a Smith. I would be willing to bet that most of us own other brands as well anyway. Personally....I prefer the older no-lock Smiths myself and have a safe-full, BUT....nothing wrong with having that toss-away brand in case it gets stolen, or taken away from you because you have to use it for SD purposes. Some of these other makes (especially the older guns) are (or can be made into) very good shooters. I have a 94SS that my son took away from me and I usually carry a Rossi 88-2. I'd rather have it taken as opposed to the "now prices" for a Smith M60.

I'm simply fed-up with just about any recently made brand. Too many cracked-frames, slipped tolerances and poor workmanship leaving the factory doors nowadays. I don't care how many warranties it has.....if it stays in the mail all the time back-n-forth to the factory, no good to me anyway.

 

[BigBill]

I never noticed the trigger pull on my misses M94. I lube everything with only. Once it's lubed I work it in by cycling it. My misses shoots only double action too. I like the Taurus m94, it's no k22 but it shoots great the misses love's it. There great for new shooters.

My two new s&w m58 & m57 had two different feeling triggers. One was a tad harder on the let off. I lubed it with only now there both equal to all my other handguns. I like all my handgun triggers to be pretty much equal and as close to each other as they can be. To me having the same smooth feeling trigger in everything makes us better shooters with different guns.

 

[Redlegvzv]

My Ruger SP101 .22LR is a joy to shoot, but just as the OP says, the trigger is pretty darned stiff. Nice and smooth, but stiff. No workmanship issues whatever regarding my SP101:


The stiff triggers on most or all .22LR revolvers may be why Single Action .22 LR revolvers are so popular (?) ... My Ruger Single Six Hunter is a fav:

 

[Poncho Catalina]

I have had several single actions colt 22s, several semi-auto 22s, k and n frame S&W, but this was my first DA 22. I was not expecting the stiff pull. I am going to clean it up a little and maybe try some lighter springs, then shoot the snot out of it. I do not expect it to be a target gun. I just want to be able to enjoy it.
Have a good thanksgiving
Poncho

 

[alec.mc]

I run my 617 at 6.5 lbs DA. Which seems to be as low as I can go before getting light strikes.

With proper springs and a little bit of polishing 6.5-7 lbs is absolutely achiveable on the s&w 617 and is pretty common practice for them