SweetMK
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I got one of those,, can I send it back to S&W to get the "LOCK" installed??
Maybe they can narrow the trigger and hammer too,, so it will look more like the newer ones!!
Then I could scribble out the TT & TH on the box,,,,
22LR MOUNTAIN GUN!?
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I got one of those,, can I send it back to S&W to get the "LOCK" installed??
Maybe they can narrow the trigger and hammer too,, so it will look more like the newer ones!!
Then I could scribble out the TT & TH on the box,,,,
SweetMK
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Could the 617 Mountain Gun have been intended for export??
I see a 357 that states it was intended for export:
"This S&W Model 686 SSR Pro Series "Rappy" Revolver was a special-edition, manufactured as an export for the Italian market. It is part of our S&W Archive Collection - a collection of rare Smith & Wesson firearms that are all brand-new, in original condition, but no longer manufactured"
I see a 357 that states it was intended for export:
"This S&W Model 686 SSR Pro Series "Rappy" Revolver was a special-edition, manufactured as an export for the Italian market. It is part of our S&W Archive Collection - a collection of rare Smith & Wesson firearms that are all brand-new, in original condition, but no longer manufactured"
That's entirely possible. The 'Rappy' 686s were sold in Canada as well, in a 5-inch barrel length. If memory serves, the logos were placed a bit differently on the 5-inch versions versus those at SOSS slated for Italy.
The 'Mountain Gun' nomenclature points more towards an English-speaking country, IMO. On the other hand, the revolver's rimfire status would be appealing to many countries in Western Europe, where it is mandatory to start club shooting with .22lr, or where licensing might be easier for rimfire weapons.
My WAG is Canada, with absolutely zero factual evidence to back it up.
darmtn1917
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This maybe the closest we get to a SS mdl 18!
PeaceSells560
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Picked mine up from my FFL today...
First impressions...
The trigger is mice, better than my stock CZ-75's.
The cylinder needs a bit of a push to be opened, I assume it needs a bit of lubrication somewhere.
The rubber grips actually do seem to fit my hand.
The serial number prefix is CTD. Maybe this was intended to be a special run for Cheaper Than Dirt?
That said, I am very pleased with it, even though I haven't shot it yet (I need to find some .22lr first).
First impressions...
The trigger is mice, better than my stock CZ-75's.
The cylinder needs a bit of a push to be opened, I assume it needs a bit of lubrication somewhere.
The rubber grips actually do seem to fit my hand.
The serial number prefix is CTD. Maybe this was intended to be a special run for Cheaper Than Dirt?
That said, I am very pleased with it, even though I haven't shot it yet (I need to find some .22lr first).
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The 617 Mountain Gun was back in stock,,, 5 minutes ago,,,
I ordered a second!!
So you're the reason I can't get my "first"
SweetMK
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So you're the reason I can't get my "first"
My first is setting at my FFL, which is 25 miles away,,
The second shipped today,, will arrive Monday,,
So, decisions, decisions,, waste a 50 mile trip to pick up the first,,,
just so I can drool a little??
OR,, just pick them both up on Monday,,, Hmmmmm
Sorry about the second one g-dad,,, but,
I got a 2 year old grandson that needs EVERYTHING that Pop-Pop has!!
How may years will it set until we can go shooting??
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Got mine too. New condition, bone dry, seems great. Only thing that took me by surprise is there is no 'mountain gun' on the barrel! No signs of it being removed. It is tapered and has the mountain gun profile, just no lettering! 
68sixspeed
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Mine is waiting for me at the dealer, 8 shot stainless 627 arriving Monday. Now I am in the same dilemma as SweetMk, pickup one or wait.... Great problem
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sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore now says $699.99 but Temporarily Out of Stock
PDX1953
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Since it's a .22 & "Mountain Gun" seems a little aggressive maybe they should have called it the "Hill Gun." Or the "Gentle Slope" revolver.
I've kicked myself for years over a Lew Horton Model 63 that I sold years ago. It had a 2" barrel, red ramp & white outline sights & I took it to Bill Davis in Sacramento & had him chamber it in .22 Mag. I bought it in CA & took it to CT with me & sold it to a co-worker for some dumb reason. I certainly didn't need the money and about a year ago I found out it was one of about 500 guns made for Lew. A whole new bout of self-loathing & head banging began immediately.
I lived in Sacramento from '82 - '93 & carried illegally with a Barami Hip Grip. Back then there was no way in Hades you could get a CHL & it's the only gun I've ever pointed at someone on purpose. That's a real long story but I truly believe I may not be alive today if I didn't have it with me. Short version - when the guy who accosted me heard the hammer cock he looked down & saw it was about an inch from his belly button. He departed forthwith along with his three buddies.
I've kicked myself for years over a Lew Horton Model 63 that I sold years ago. It had a 2" barrel, red ramp & white outline sights & I took it to Bill Davis in Sacramento & had him chamber it in .22 Mag. I bought it in CA & took it to CT with me & sold it to a co-worker for some dumb reason. I certainly didn't need the money and about a year ago I found out it was one of about 500 guns made for Lew. A whole new bout of self-loathing & head banging began immediately.
I lived in Sacramento from '82 - '93 & carried illegally with a Barami Hip Grip. Back then there was no way in Hades you could get a CHL & it's the only gun I've ever pointed at someone on purpose. That's a real long story but I truly believe I may not be alive today if I didn't have it with me. Short version - when the guy who accosted me heard the hammer cock he looked down & saw it was about an inch from his belly button. He departed forthwith along with his three buddies.
SmithMarine
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Guess I'll have to be happy with my 4" no-lock model 63. However, being on a J-frame it's probably only good on Hills, not Mountains.
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Looks to be about the perfect mountain gun to me. Correct balance, length and capacity. Buyers please post some off hand groups. Interested if it shoots as good as it looks
Cardboard_killer
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I did not care an iota about the words on it. I would prefer they weren't on it, but not enough to spend money to ship it in trade for someone with one that did not have the words on it.
Kit Guns ceased being "cool" once I got out of grade school.
I would think 4 extra rounds would be enough of a difference.
What does a 4" j frame do that this gun won't?
Why ask such questions in a forum dedicated to S&W revolver users, many of whom are collectors and view a S&W revolver as much more than the sum of "what it can do"?
A 4" J frame is lighter. That's also what makes a .44 Mountain Gun popular and separates it from a 629 4" standard.
A 4" j frame is more compact making it easier to pack. That's also what makes a .44 Mountain Gun more handy and popular than a longer gun or an X frame for backup use.
A Mountain Gun is traditionally a backup against all kinds of threats. That's why they were made in serious calibers. A .22 is much more limited in that role. It does make a perfect small game tool though...like a Kit Gun.
A bigger, heavier framed .22 with a contoured barrel seems a poor candidate for the title Mountain Gun.
I am a collector too. I own a 629-4 Mountain Gun that I shoot and carry in the woods.
As far as I am concerned if a .22lr can be a called proper Mountain Gun now, then a Mazda Miata can be considered a proper muscle car.
None of my .22 revolvers self-identify as a Mountain Gun.
I do like the tapered barrel look on that new .22 10 shooter though.
A 4" j frame is more compact making it easier to pack. That's also what makes a .44 Mountain Gun more handy and popular than a longer gun or an X frame for backup use.
A Mountain Gun is traditionally a backup against all kinds of threats. That's why they were made in serious calibers. A .22 is much more limited in that role. It does make a perfect small game tool though...like a Kit Gun.
A bigger, heavier framed .22 with a contoured barrel seems a poor candidate for the title Mountain Gun.
I am a collector too. I own a 629-4 Mountain Gun that I shoot and carry in the woods.
As far as I am concerned if a .22lr can be a called proper Mountain Gun now, then a Mazda Miata can be considered a proper muscle car.
None of my .22 revolvers self-identify as a Mountain Gun.
I do like the tapered barrel look on that new .22 10 shooter though.
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Going by your criteria, the M69 is more Mountain Gun than the M29 MG.
Fwiw, the Miata will embarrass many muscle cars around a twisty track.
I like my 22 MOUNTAIN GUN in a K-frame, as J-frames are uncomfortably small to shoot for me.
Fwiw, the Miata will embarrass many muscle cars around a twisty track.
I like my 22 MOUNTAIN GUN in a K-frame, as J-frames are uncomfortably small to shoot for me.
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Agreed. An L frame .44 magnum would be pure belt-carry win in my opinion if it did not have the hideous lock on the side.
A Miata may be fast, but you'd still be driving a Miata for all to see.
68sixspeed
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Kids, play nice, besides a Miata will not embarrass MY muscle car on a track... Lol.
But back on topic, anyone else get one without the (stupid?) mountain gun script on the barrel? Mine is in at the dealer but I didn't pickup yet to see if it is marked that way or not. I am excited about this different setup, I have a couple 6" 617s and have been after either a 3-4" 63 or 4" 617 and the 617 fits my large hands better.
But back on topic, anyone else get one without the (stupid?) mountain gun script on the barrel? Mine is in at the dealer but I didn't pickup yet to see if it is marked that way or not. I am excited about this different setup, I have a couple 6" 617s and have been after either a 3-4" 63 or 4" 617 and the 617 fits my large hands better.
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Cardboard_killer
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I think you will be very happy. My knock on 617s has always been their weight and balance. This version is lighter and, IMO, balances better than the full lug models. I do wish it were a square butt, though. I am very happy I got one. I dithered for a few days about buying it, but I sure would be kicking myself now if I hadn't. Now I don't feel the need to buy another model 18, at least not as much need.
