22lr snakeshot - can I make it?

I went to the opticsandammo.com website - they say they have lots of stuff in stock and great prices. Just out of curiosity, I decided to Google them as a potential scam seller, and well, you know the rest of the story. Caveat emptor folks, I would not put my credit card data into that site in a thousand years ... :(
 
The older stuff with the crimped case shot cartridges are weak. I trapped a pack rat in my garage in a have-a-heart trap and took him outside to dispatch him. At mere inches away I used the older shot loads from a 22 rifle to dispatch him. With the muzzle to his head the first shot just got him excited and he started going ballistic in the trap. I had to get another round from the garage to finish him off. The CCI stuff can kill and cripple birds at a fair distance though the pattern is poor to say the least. I have killed nuisance birds as far as 40' before with the CCI ammo.
 
I went to the opticsandammo.com website - they say they have lots of stuff in stock and great prices. Just out of curiosity, I decided to Google them as a potential scam seller, and well, you know the rest of the story. Caveat emptor folks, I would not put my credit card data into that site in a thousand years ... :(

I THINK THAT SITE HAD A VIRUS TOO!!!!
 
Now that I have a .45ACP revolver I would much rather carry a .45ACP round for snake defense than any .22 round that is for sure!

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They do not recommend using that aluminum case .45acp shot ammo for revolvers as it will expand and lock up the cylinder.
 
I know of a lot of farmers and land owners in the state that have a .410 revolver on their belt when they're around ponds or water sources and most will talk pretty highly of their effectiveness. I've heard cottonmouths are pretty aggressive next to water and they're bites will eat the flesh and can lead to amputations. A catfish noodler around here lost a hand a few years back. Why mess around with a .22?
 
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I would like to make shot loads for a 22 or 38 to shoot cabbage moths in the garden. My problem is the projectile. I don't want to use lead, and sand or salt might harm the bore of the gun. What could I load them with that would kill an insect but not hurt the gun?
 
I guess you could shoot bees and wasps at close range but not sure it would work on snakes. I've heard Speer .38 shotshells do OK on rats, mice, and small snakes but the .410 revolvers would be superior.

I'll be shooting these (if I can buy or build some) in a place with concrete. I'm wanting to limit how many ricochets I get if I misjudge my backstop. The jury is out on if I'm even going to try it.
 
Why bother?

22 shot shells are useful for introducing a child to wing shooting using balloons with some water in them and shooting dragonflies at about 15 feet. Other than that, they are miserable devices.

If you absolutely must have 22 shot shells, they're readily available. You won't need many to discover that they're pretty useless.

I see them online for .60/round plus shipping hazmat, etc, etc. Or more. Too much for me.
 
My opinion is, no. That said you might get it done but I suspect the performance will be less than stellar. I don't think you can beat factory.

It's more about availability than reliability. There's nothing local and anything online is way more than I'd pay, even before shipping, etc.
 
CCI .22 works for me with a headshot to medium sized copper heads. I have been bit and don't ever want to be again. I don't get any closer than about 15ft though.
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22LR shot for snakes is not very effective, buy some shot containers and load #9 shot in your 38/357 or better yet 44 guns. I have used a 44 special with #9 shot for 4 decades now, rattlers do not move if shot in the head at 3-10 feet. It does get really exciting when they are only a couple feet away from your legs, you need to "carry enough gun" so you do not have a heart attack.
 
If you're just going to shoot at moths and bees and such things, I would just load any pistol shot load with something like salt or the old walnut media from a case polisher.
Cornmeal or grits as mentioned above sounds like it could work.

10 or 15 ft it'll probably do in the little buzzers and no issue beyond that doing any damage .
For snakes and such,,I don't think I'd trust even the commercial stuff for that.

Since you are taking a step into the world of 'loading' .22RF, and wondering what powder and how much to use,,I'd think twice about guessing about what powder and especially with a lead (shot) load.

Tightgroup powder for use in reloading .22LR Shot?,,I don't know.
There's a (re)loading tool sold to reload fired .22LR cases.
That includes instructions and a powder chart that has 700X, Unique and some other smokeless powders on it. They also have Pyrodex listed. Their reloading is for 2 different weights of cast lead bullets,,no shot loads that I remember.
Most all .22LR commercial ammo has a powder charge or +/- 1gr.
So you're not allowed much room to roam in reloading.

That's about the only 'data' I can recall for reloading .22LR. If you call one of the ammo mfg'rs, they will just tell you it's a special proprietary powder made especially for their rimfires. Or they won't even tell you that.

The OP mentioned perhaps using just a primed LR case alone,,no powder.
Try it I guess. No harm in that.

Pressures can go up very quickly in any cartridge when using the wrong powder and bullet weight combinations. The little .22LR already runs around 24K in regular ammo if I'm not mistaken.
Not something to guess at.

The idea mentioned of using clipped up pieces of copper wire for a shot load would be a light weight alternative from lead but I'd be suspect of some of the pieces jamming in the bore trying to make it down the small dia barrel on any given shot.
At the smallest, the pieces would be around #7.5 shot size and likely larger. Not a lot can be stuffed into a .22LR.

Just some thoughts.
 
I would like to make shot loads for a 22 or 38 to shoot cabbage moths in the garden. My problem is the projectile. I don't want to use lead, and sand or salt might harm the bore of the gun. What could I load them with that would kill an insect but not hurt the gun?
Corn meal, cream of wheat etc....................

Sorry bout that, someone beat me to it..........
 
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I knew a "guy" that had a Navy flare pistol with a bushing to fire 12g shells
Very effective on anything at snake distances. Slugs, buckshot and magnum shells weren't for the average shooter, unless you were into pain.
I've experimented with all kinds of shot loads. Years ago in one of the gun magazines was article about loading lengths of solder into shot caps instead of shot. Was like stacking pencil lead in a tube. The pieces were as long as the capsule. I found this to be best shot load. Still not good. The solder was heavy enough to do damage but left a very open pattern.
 
I've done 3 medium sized rattlers with .22 shot shells.
Headshots, but keep your distance. I had to follow up with 2 of them with another shot while they were incapacitated.
 

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