years & years ago, a good friend had & used several 25-3s & 25-5's and he was absolutely delighted with how all of them shot with both factory loads & good quality handloads... I know, because I did all of his reloading for him.......after developing his loads, he retired them as safe queens.... but they were always ready to be used in hunting, self defense & target practice.....He preferred the 25-3's overall, because they could be fitted with a .45ACP cylinder easily.......... & fairly in-expensively by S&W.