I'm getting ready to load 30 carbine for the first time and would like to know about your experience with this round. What powder do you use,bullets weights. Tell me what you know.
30 Carbine Powder
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Cerberus62
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I don't load it but I know that Hogdgon H110/Winchester 296 (the same powder under different names) and Accurate #9 are the standards for 110 gr bullets in the .30 Carbine.
Are you loading for the M1 or something else?
Are you loading for the M1 or something else?
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Yes, I'll be loading for the M1 using Frontier 110 GR jacketted bullets.
H110/ W 296 it's whats for dinner.
I know a lot, at least before I forgot. What's the question??
I know a lot, at least before I forgot. What's the question??
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Is the magnum primer a must, I don't have any at this time.
Peter M. Eick
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H110, 110 grn FMJ, cci41 hard primers is my combination. Works great, just find the right powder level to cycle the action smoothly.
11e40
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i use imr 4227 & winchester srp for primers. some carbines will not set off a cci 41 primer. loads near the top of the list usually work best. some carbines also like h110. just stay within the loading data. make sure to use good brass properly sized. the little .30 is not difficult to load for. hth.
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OK, sounds like I may have to do a little experimenting to find out what
my carbine likes. A local gun store stocks H110 so I'll try it first. I have 500 brand new old stock Winchester brass to work with.
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Here is a good pull-down powder from Jeff Bartletts gibrass.com: Welcome to Bartlett Reloaders - Jeff Bartlett
"Propellant Description
Name
WC820 Orignal application is for the U.S. Cal. .30 Carbine Ball M1 round. This
lot loads at 13.5gr with 110gr FMJ projectile. This is a ball powder
which can be loaded using Hodgdon H110 data. Ideal for .410 shotgun and the
.357 & .44 Magnums.
This is pulldown ball powder.
$100/8# jug."
I have bought from him before and used this powder in 357 & 44 magnum loads. His prices are good and service is very good.
The US military TM43-001-27 Army Ammunition Data Sheets Small Caliber Ammunition shows the military spec load as 13.0gr WC820 under a 111gr FMJ for 1900 fps @ 40,000psi.
"Propellant Description
Name
WC820 Orignal application is for the U.S. Cal. .30 Carbine Ball M1 round. This
lot loads at 13.5gr with 110gr FMJ projectile. This is a ball powder
which can be loaded using Hodgdon H110 data. Ideal for .410 shotgun and the
.357 & .44 Magnums.
This is pulldown ball powder.
$100/8# jug."
I have bought from him before and used this powder in 357 & 44 magnum loads. His prices are good and service is very good.
The US military TM43-001-27 Army Ammunition Data Sheets Small Caliber Ammunition shows the military spec load as 13.0gr WC820 under a 111gr FMJ for 1900 fps @ 40,000psi.
Look at the load data. Hodgdon calls for SR(CCI 400) primers. In handguns a mag primer is need to properly ignite H10/W 296. In the carbine the SR is recommended.
Some go contrary to what the load data states and use regular primers and get poor results.
Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com
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SR primers it is then, thanks for the heads up. Really like the Hodgdon page too.
Big thanks to all for the additional information.
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My Speer reloading manual calls for Magnum Primers with H110/W296, I have also used standard primers with no ill effect. I hear using standard primers can be an issue in low temperatures but for summer time shooting, you should be fine.
I use 13 grs of #2400 behind a cast gas checked 120 gr. RN or a 115 gr FMJ. Run these through an Underwood, a Quality Hardware and an IBM with good accuracy and no problems.
I use standard WW rifle primers in these.
I use standard WW rifle primers in these.
mkk41
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Always used 2400 or H110/W296 when handloading for my .30 carbine Ruger Blackhawk. Never used any of my loads in my US M1 carbines.
nicky4968
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you will find that case length is absolutely critical. slightly over-length and it will jam.
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That is a concern for me as I have never loaded for a semi auto rifle. My
reloading so far has all been for revolver.
Trim to the minimum length listed in your reloading manual and you will be fine. I have found that if I keep my loads .5gr below maximum, then I only have to trim them once. If you push it then they start stretching and you have to trim them every time. Cutting them all to the same length helps with a uniform crimp, the cased are kind of thick and then won't buckle but for accuracy sake, a uniform tapper crimp is important.
planojack
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For years, I've used 12.5 grains of 2400 with an 87 grain cast bullet designed for the S&W Long. Used in six different M1 Carbines. Works and is very cheap to shoot.
dirty gary
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Been loading 30 carbine for M1 for years, H110 and 110 gr FMJ, SR primer, no problems. Case length is critical, recently spent many evenings trimming about 3,000 cases for future loading. Very easy round to load once you're set up.
