30 Super Carry

When they make a firearm I like in that caliber I'll buy it and put it in my collection and watch It appreciate like all the other odd ball firearms that weren't a commercial success, S&W .17cal revolver, etc.
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I don't think they could have brought it out at a worse time. I'll sit back and watch. Been around long enough to see many new calibers come and go.
If it becomes the beat all solution, I may try it. Or not.
 
In early advertising, it was intimated that the 30 Super Carry would be offered in the Shield Plus in addition to the Shield EZ. However, the S&W site (last time I looked) only listed the Shield Plus in Super Carry with a 12 round magazine, no provision offered for states with capacity limits.

Personally, I don't like the Shield EZ, but if 10 round magazines were available for the Shield Plus, I would give it a try.
 
Kanewpadle said:
Looks impressive. But I'm too heavily invested in 9MM
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Looking at the performance data that Federal published on the page linked to, my first though is I can come up with a 9mm load that would produce the same numbers as the 30SC. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Federal already makes one.

From there it comes down to the capacity. Using the Shield Plus as a baseline, adding an extra 2 rounds is not going to get me to make the switch to a new cartridge when shopping for a new pistol.

That being said, of the high capacity micro 9's I own, I suppose I would have considered paying extra if they offered a dual caliber option if it were available when I bought the things, where they figure out an extractor and magazine that would work for both, and having never seen a 30SC completely stripped down this may already be the case, along with barrels for both cartridges.
 
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Breakaway500 said:
Ballistics look very similar to 9mm Makarov. Don't really see the need to reinvent the wheel but people keep trying!
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Check again! 9x18 Makarov is almost identical to .380 ACP, only very slightly, better, but not a statistically significant amount! The .30 SC is light years ahead of .380. The SC is closer to .327 Federal and what can be done with the .32 H&R Magnum when hand-loaded to it's full capability in a sufficiently strong revolver.
 
Ammunition is scarce. The .380 has been improved ( with the use of new lead-less bullet technology) to close to 9MM effectiveness. I have read the specs, .30 "super carry" lies between 9MM and .380. One of our knowledgeable members stated that the round approximates the 9MM Makorov. I'm not going anywhere the .40, that is an entirely different discussion. From what I see is and industry that can't even keep up with consumer demand, introducing what they think will be the next ballistic "hula-hoop" while answering a question that NOBODY asked.
 
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Jimmy4570 said:
Again, an answer to a question nobody serious asked. As with cartridges like the.45 GAP, .40 S&W and .327 Fed, a passing fad with nothing new ballistically nor any sort of superiority in any category to supplant anything that's been around for the past hundred years or more. The cartridges I mention above all have their "ancient" and "outdated" equals- .45 Schofield, .38-40 and .32 H&R mag. Personally, I'd like to see, as with Dick Cassull's duplex loads, something on that order applied to cartridges such as the .38 Super, .45 ACP and 9mm to boost their performance in strengthened platforms.
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Can't really put 40 S&W in that category. Way more pistols in 40 than the other two combined. If I remember correctly the 40 was "fad" for about 20 years.
 
The frontal area of a 30 super carry is 0.076 inches.

The frontal area of a 9mm is 0.099 inches.

The 9 is 30% bigger.

I think size matters.
 
This might be interesting if it were possible to fit 6 rounds in a S&W j frame or Charter Arms Undercover. If law enforcement agencies get interested in it for back-up or duty handguns, it might take off.
 
The 30 SC will be the future carry option for many people(not me however).

Smaller guns for concealed carry are the trend.
And a caliber that can send 100 to 115 grain bullets at speeds approaching 9mm performance will be very popular.
The slimmer case dimensions make the capacity of a 30 SC pistol comparable to a midsize 9mm.

You'll be seeing a lot of these guns in future years along with the ammo to go with them.
 
Kid Shileen said:
Can't really put 40 S&W in that category. Way more pistols in 40 than the other two combined. If I remember correctly the 40 was "fad" for about 20 years.
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Exactly
The 40 definitely wasn't a fad and will remain a mainstream cartridge - a lot of it back on store shelves. The market is too big to abandon it. It will be interesting to see how long the new 30 SC survives.
 
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CH4 said:
Since I heard about it at SHOT, I wondered why they didn't call it the 32 SC.
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I think they didn't call it a 32 for the same reasons Federal named their revolver cartridge the 327 Federal instead of the Federal 32 Magnum.

When people hear 32 they think of weak, old and obsolete cartridges that are not a good choice for self defense. Using 30 SC avoids the stigma of 32.

Calling it a 30 helps it stand out from the crowd of other cartridges with 32 in their name. You don't see much 32 ammo on store shelves but if they had called it a 32 SC it would have blended in with 32 ACP, S&W, S&W Long and H&R magnum.

It also reduces the chance of someone going to a store and walking out with the wrong ammo.
 
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