Well, picked us a slightly used (may have had a box or less through it - salesman said it was practically new - saved $$$ off of the new price when you could get them last year) I am a new member here and this is my first post (other than the intro one). I had a 442 in the past so I was expecting this one to be sweet shooting with the additional 9 oz or so extra weight. This is a k frame, blacked out with the trijicon front sight with 2 1/2" barrel. I shot a little over 100 rounds of three different flavors in it today. After figuring out the sights, I made some reasonable groups with it. The trigger is so much smoother and lighter than the 442 and of course has the option of single action. I am really impressed as it's a good weight for recoil absorption but not too heavy to carry. I think it's 24 oz empty. I understand this one was only made for a year or year and half and not currently in production. I was orginally looking at the 386 L frame 7 shot but the price on this one was soooo much less used. I will attempt to attach some pics too... I used magtech 158 gr flat nose jacketed, pmc 132 fmj, and half a box of hornady 110 gr +P critical defense... Not one misfire (I think some had this problem and the primers looked good). The magtech had a noticable fireball where the critical defense had none and about the same recoil. All in all, I am thrilled with it and also with finding this forum...