32 H&R/32 SW Long Info???

[geeollie]

I have a few loading manuals including the Complete 32 H&R Magnum. There is little info on loading 32 S&W Long and 32 H&R Mag wadcutters that are solid... I am NOT looking for hollow base wad cutter info. I have several HBWC loads.

While I believe that the HBWC loads can be used to work up a Solid Wadcutter load, I am timid/cautious/plain nervous of doing so at this point in my learning.

I would enjoy hearing of manuals that have SOLID Wadcutter load information for either of these rounds. I prefer 98 and 100 gr WC if that information can be found.

I have not seen any Lyman Cast Bullet manuals or the RCBS cast manual (I think there is one). What would you recommend for the 32 solid WC's so far as a printed or on-line reference?
And Thank you!!

 

[Alk8944]

Buy a "Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook". If you can't find one locally simply "Google" the title and you will find several on-line booksellers you can order it from. Barnes and Nobel and Amazon are two sources.

 

[AJ]

Punching paper or what? I use 2.8 grains of Bullseye for either bullet for punching holes in whatever with my .32 H&R Magnum.

 

[geeollie]

EVERYONE who has been at it a while says Bullseye.
Bullseye is gone from every source available on the internet and locally.
I have some Unique??!!
I do appreciate it though.

Yes punching paper.

 

[AJ]

EVERYONE who has been at it a while says Bullseye.
Bullseye is gone from every source available on the internet and locally.
I have some Unique??!!
I do appreciate it though.

Yes punching paper.

I stocked up on powder a while ago. Have about 12 pounds of Bullseye on hand.

Using a 100 grain DEWC, Bullseye gives me 648 FPS with 2.8 grains. My computer program shows Unique 3.2 grains will give 638 FPS. Give that a try.

 

[Green Frog]

Any load you can use with a HBWC can be used safely with the same weight DEWC. Two factors are in play, actual bullet weight and powder capacity. The skirt of the hollow base goes deeper into the case, but the hollow cone “gives back” some of that space. Overall, both bullets occupy the same volume inside the case, so pressure should be identical. At least that’s how it was explained to me and the basis of my load calculations.

Of course the solid base of the DEWC can be driven harder since there is no concern about the skirt being stripped off and left in the bore. For this reason, I regard my working loads for HBWCs as a starting point for the solid base bullets of the same weight. The solids can safely be driven much faster.

As for powders for target loads, I’ve been using WW231 or HP38 (which are the same). It seems like it’s easier to find around here than Bullseye. I’ve used it in some fairly warm 32 H&R loads.

Froggie

PS There’s been a lot of discussion about loading various 32s over on the Cast Boolits forum (yeah, they can’t spell!)

 

[mtgianni]

It is interesting. Lyman cast #s 1-4 show no wc loads other than hbwc. I can't find my RCBS manual, as it seems to have slipped behind the bookshelf. In my Western Powder and Accurate manuals they don't seem to have tested wc's either. At some point you have to decide if there is ever a reason to go outside printed data as a handloader. If the answer is never, the best answer for you is to sell the wadcutters.

What I have done is use the max loads for hbwc as a start load as mine are cast, not swedged as soft lead. I have then used the weight of a similar bullet as a max, if they have a similar bearing length. This works well in an I frame 32 L and 3 32 H&R magnums.

Other good powders are AA2 and Red Dot. I would stay below Unique speed on a powder burning rate chart for wadcutters. Green dot and 700X may have some applications.

 

[geeollie]

All of this is helpful and encouraging to me. I appreciate the time you guys took to explain some of this stuff.