My first post. First I want to thank you all for the warm welcome in the intro section. Now my question. I recently purchased a 325NG and the trigger pull (double action) is horrible. I have never had a revolver with a trigger pull so heavy. My wife cannot even pull the trigger in double action. Has any one else had this problem with there Night Guard? S&W says they would have to test it, but the trigger pull was increased on th Night Guard series. Single action it is printing 1" groups all day. Double action 12", maybe. The fit and finish are nice but that means nothing if you cannot hit what you are aiming at. Over all they could have done a better job for $825.Thanks for any help.
325 Night Guard Trigger?
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My first post. First I want to thank you all for the warm welcome in the intro section. Now my question. I recently purchased a 325NG and the trigger pull (double action) is horrible. I have never had a revolver with a trigger pull so heavy. My wife cannot even pull the trigger in double action. Has any one else had this problem with there Night Guard? S&W says they would have to test it, but the trigger pull was increased on th Night Guard series. Single action it is printing 1" groups all day. Double action 12", maybe. The fit and finish are nice but that means nothing if you cannot hit what you are aiming at. Over all they could have done a better job for $825.Thanks for any help.
Bought one of these @ month ago and I would say the trigger is a bit heavier than normal but nothing like what you are describing.
Two things make a heavy trigger pull: heavy springs or rough, poorly fitted parts.
Which does yours feel like; roughness or smooth and heavy?
Which does yours feel like; roughness or smooth and heavy?
My fairly new Night Guard trigger is alittle heavy on DA compared to my M-625JM, but very smooth and certainly manageable.
It will shoot DA into 4 inches at 15 yards all day long.
I rarely shoot SA with this revolver, but it is very smooth and light.
It will shoot DA into 4 inches at 15 yards all day long.
I rarely shoot SA with this revolver, but it is very smooth and light.
magnum12pm
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It seems lately most of the S&W revolvers are heavy on DA pull weight, to me meaning well over 10 pounds. I bought a 686 SSR a while back advertised as having a tuned trigger. It checked out at 10 pounds four ounces. The men may be O.K. with that, but as you stated these heavy trigger pulls, do not make the ladies happy! I also have a Model 60 Lady Smith, factory DA trigger pull would not register on my digital pull gauge, which is limited to 12 pounds. That is unacceptable pull weight for a revolver marketed to a woman. I have since improved these two revolver down to a lighter, smoother, but for the money you paid, why should you have to do the extra work. Most women will not shoot more than a few rounds from a revolver that tires her finger out so easily. The bottom line I think is S&W does this for litigation puposes, I can't think of any other reason. I certainly would not refer to an 8 to 9 pound trigger as hair tigger by any means.
Sir I totally agree with you. I would be extremely happy, at this point, with a 10 pound double action trigger. As I said before, they could do better on a $825 firearm. The 325NG I handled at the Sportsman Show, at the S&W table, had a decent trigger but I would imagine 1000's of people had handled and dry fired it.
magnum12pm
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It is also possible S&W may have given the show 325NG a little tender loving care, so as to put their best foot forward. I shoot at a busy public range "indoor" with my Lady smith snubby, have had ladies come up ask about tigger pull. I have twice just opened the cylinder handed it to them, told them to take over and shoot it all they would care to. I have had one lady jokingly offer to trade her new snubby for my Model 60LS. I still say for 825 dollars why should you, who may not have the mechanical skills do your own trigger job.
I will tell you this MAC, I would be willing to bet if you could get the actual pull weight checked, verify that it indeed is way heavy. S&W would do a free trigger job on it, plus shipping on their dime, I complained about a pro series 1911 ($1100) that had 5 pound 10 ounce single action pull. They paid to ship it back, six days later it was back with 4 pounds 6 ounce pull weight. Sir for 825 dollars I would email or call S&W for a shipping label....Just my two cents.
You have a point Sir. I did talk to them once already. I could push the point more. I have always had really good luck with there customer service. S&W's web site does not list what the factory trigger pull should be. I wish I had the tool to measure the weight of pull.
magnum12pm
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I should mention that the literature on the Pro Series 1911 I was refering to, stated on the S&W website, that the trigger pull was 4-4 1/2 pounds on this, my pistol. I used that to my advantage in discussions with them about the out of (promised by them) spec of 5 pound 10 ounce pull my pistol had. They then said you are right, we will adjust it....good luck sir.
MAC,
The springs are extra heavy on the lightweight guns due to the reduced mass therefore increased forward acceleration of the gun upon firing pin impact. The result can be inconsistent ignition with some brands of primers.
Since you indicated the pull was smooth, I would not deprive myself of my gun by messing around mailing back and forth. You don't have a flawed product you simply have a little over engineering. Get yourself an after market spring kit like Wolf with a couple of different weight springs from Midway or Brownell's and experiment with different weights 'til you're satisfied the gun is dependable with the ammo you shoot. It's a good idea to take off the sideplate on any new gun and thoroughly flush/clean out metal chips and machine 'dust'.
The springs are extra heavy on the lightweight guns due to the reduced mass therefore increased forward acceleration of the gun upon firing pin impact. The result can be inconsistent ignition with some brands of primers.
Since you indicated the pull was smooth, I would not deprive myself of my gun by messing around mailing back and forth. You don't have a flawed product you simply have a little over engineering. Get yourself an after market spring kit like Wolf with a couple of different weight springs from Midway or Brownell's and experiment with different weights 'til you're satisfied the gun is dependable with the ammo you shoot. It's a good idea to take off the sideplate on any new gun and thoroughly flush/clean out metal chips and machine 'dust'.
