notsofast
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Hello, will a pinned 357 n frame barrel work on a 38/44 heavy duty? N frame barrel: 357 bore, rifling and forcing cone for a n frame, will it work on the n frame 38 ? Thanks
.357 barrel on 38/44 gun, will it work?
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It should IF the threads are the same. Would have to be fitted ie "clocked & cyl gap.
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The part that concerns me is whether the 38/44 has proper steel and heat treating to handle Magnum loads. I would exercise extreme caution.
Plenty of S&W 38-44's had their cylinders reamed for then new 357 Magnum cartridge, I don't think there were reports of them blowing up or being otherwise damaged so long as loads were not exceeding safe pressure levels. If the OP is looking to turn a 38-44 into a 357 Magnum, I'd counsel against doing such. Given that many 38-44's were modified back in the day, that means each unmolested 38-44 is worth more to a collector. One might find that selling a 38-44 and buying a Model 27, which is still in production, or a Model 28 is financially more practical.
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The barrel threads are the same and the forcing cone length is as well,
The 38/44 cylinder is shorter at the rear because it isn't recessed but that won't affect the fit at the front.
If anything the .357 barrel is even stronger but I doubt the 38/44 barrel is inferior in strength.
The 38/44 cylinder is shorter at the rear because it isn't recessed but that won't affect the fit at the front.
If anything the .357 barrel is even stronger but I doubt the 38/44 barrel is inferior in strength.
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I think the ".38" barrel on a .357 will be fine; I don't think barrels for Magnum revolvers are heat-treated or made of special steels from regular ones.
A few of the post-war Transitional 38/44 Outdoorsman revolvers were fitted with Registered Magnum barrels.
One issue with what you are contemplating is the mis-match between the HD frame and the rib on the .357 barrel, but that would be cosmetic.
One issue with what you are contemplating is the mis-match between the HD frame and the rib on the .357 barrel, but that would be cosmetic.
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If your 38/44 is a pre war variant without a raised barrel rib the two won't mate cosmetically, if it's a post war gun with raised rib will look perfect.
I fit a post war 38/44 with a pre war RM 4" barrel, looks and works great and the barrel forcing cone to cylinder gap was perfect.
I fit a post war 38/44 with a pre war RM 4" barrel, looks and works great and the barrel forcing cone to cylinder gap was perfect.
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That is pleasing to my eyes. I kind of think S&W missed the mark with the Model 28, got it right with the Model 58. S&W wanted a lower cost N-frame 357 Magnum for law enforcement officers. Maybe instead of a Model 27 with less fitting and finishing, they should have used the fixed sight N-frame as the basis for the Model 28.
The bbl transplant will go fine,
The revolver being a HD/fixed site frame will have a space in top where the 357 bbl rib ends and the fixed site N frame is contour shaped downward.
The rib on the 357 bbl can be removed and produce a fixed site style bbl that will nicely match at the frame/bbl juncture.
You will need to leave a bit of the old rib in place to then be used as the new fixed front site base.
A separate front site blade is then made and attached/pinned into a slot made in that new base.
Simple!
Or maybe look for a HD bbl.
Numrich still has some of the post war 'in the white' 38 outdoorsman bbls available.
They will require final filing, fit and finish. But the ones I have used are new bore and have all roll markings (38spcl).
Removing the rib as above the same idea to fit to a plain frame HD.
They used to have HD unfinished bbs as well,,but those days are gone I guess.
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I totally missed your gun is a 38/44 HD.
They of course do not have a raised rib.
I was thinking it was either a pre war 38/44 Outdoorsman or a post war Pre Model 23
They of course do not have a raised rib.
I was thinking it was either a pre war 38/44 Outdoorsman or a post war Pre Model 23
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Yep. Pre War HD with a 3.5 in Pre 27 barrel.
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