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Thanks! Not in California:-( 10+1. I decided to go 44. Magnums for woods, specials for urban.
357 or 44...which one?
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Thanks! Not in California:-( 10+1. I decided to go 44. Magnums for woods, specials for urban.
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Ha! 41 is nice, but ammo is pricy..and I think 44 packs more punch with about the same recoil in my opinion. I have the 44 and the 357.
I predict you will be happy with your choice of caliber.
Now to find the actual gun. 629s aren't exactly that common, are they?
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Not only do I in California have to list my three. No modifications can be done to them unless approved by the range officer at qualifications.
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I'd go with the .44 for sure. I like the .357, but I love the .44...both magnum and special.
I don't like the sharp recoil and muzzle flash from a .357...it's disconcerting. It isn't painful or anything like that...it just makes me have to think too hard about a second shot, I have to concentrate too much instead of just reacting...if that makes sense. The recoil from the .44 feels more like an upward push rather than the jerky feel of the .357.
Also, as someone else mentions, if you're going to carry an N-Frame, no matter what barrel length you choose, the difference is negligible.
This is just my own opinion, mind you, formed from experience and preferences. I will admit, though, to being influenced by Skelton and Keith in my younger days.
I'll also admit that even though I've had some 29-2s in the past, the only .44s I have right now are Old Model Ruger single actions from the sixties. That will probably change next year...I'm beginning to look for a 29-2 as a shooter. Again.
I don't like the sharp recoil and muzzle flash from a .357...it's disconcerting. It isn't painful or anything like that...it just makes me have to think too hard about a second shot, I have to concentrate too much instead of just reacting...if that makes sense. The recoil from the .44 feels more like an upward push rather than the jerky feel of the .357.
Also, as someone else mentions, if you're going to carry an N-Frame, no matter what barrel length you choose, the difference is negligible.
This is just my own opinion, mind you, formed from experience and preferences. I will admit, though, to being influenced by Skelton and Keith in my younger days.
I'll also admit that even though I've had some 29-2s in the past, the only .44s I have right now are Old Model Ruger single actions from the sixties. That will probably change next year...I'm beginning to look for a 29-2 as a shooter. Again.
Z'that the country w/ Komrade Brown? Better GOOD (get out of Dodge) while you can...the jack booted thugs will be coming for your 44 and 357 pound dogs one of these days. Unless you're 99 years old and don't care.
Me too, just like the idea of 44 specials for most of my needs. Went to a big retailer today and they had NO 44 spcls, only mags...hmmm what does that tell us? Hello Midway; might ought to stock up friends.
edit: just ordered me some of this dog feed: 260 total nutrients therein, 920 calories, and 520 possible pounds of weight gain. Grizzly baby... https://www.midwayusa.com/product/9...mance-lead-wide-flat-nose-gas-check-box-of-20
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Yeah...I decided on the 44. 200gr gold dot specials for 2 legs, and something like the flat nose above or a magnum for 4 legs. Let me know what you think after you shoot a few! I'm not too old to leave, but have a lot of business here...but thinking about it!
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By law the serial numbers of the specific guns must be listed on the license. They can be changed (additions/deletions) during the period of the license, with the approval of the issuing authority (and a small fee, if imposed), but such changes (if allowed) won't extend the length of the license. A common reason is to remove a gun that's been sold/traded for a new one, and to list the new one.
The number of guns allowed to be listed is left up to the individual issuing authority (Sheriff, COP), though. Granted, the license only has 3 lines, but I've known of more than 3 guns being listed on a license.
Kind of like how an issuing authority is free to list additional restrictions and limitations on any particular license than those listed in the original standardized state application (mandated form). Hint: There's a lot of room on the back of the license, and I've even see an agency in one county "double" the size of the standard card, making the reverse side of the license twice the size (needed for the long list of restrictions).
I've also known of issuing authorities limiting the number of approved guns to as few as 1 gun, and even restricting caliber, type, etc.
Things got more complicated back in '99, after a licensing issue arose with an issuing authority.
To the OP ... Suit yourself, within whatever guidelines and policies may exist with the agency authority signing your license. For example, does the agency issuing your license allow .44 Magnum for a CCW weapon? I've known of those who wouldn't.
You're only talking about a weight difference of a couple of ounces between the 627 & 629 PC snubs, but you have to ask yourself whether the difference in overall recoil management & controllability between the 2 guns, and the 2 round capacity difference, is significant to you.
FWIW, I do rather fancy the PC 627's, 327's and M&P R8.
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I don't know or understand Calf law....... that said
for camping/hiking could you take a Winchester Trapper in .357 or .44....fairly light and handy..... short enough to sling carry or strap to a pack frame.........
Here in Pa. Coyotes are in season pretty much 24/7/365 which is my excuse if I want to tote a my Ruger 77/357 or my Trapper in .357.
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Ah...I didn't know that they could allow more than 3 guns. I'll check into it...thanks! I've always liked the idea of the 44 Special, which is what I would carry in an Urban setting. Magnums for the woods. I also like that they are lower pressure with less flash. Love the 8 shots of the 627 PC, but I think I have more versatility with the 44. Thanks for the input!
You have an embarrassment of riches, my friend. That is a handsome brace of revolvers you have there. Considering the state in which you live, you are also very lucky to have a carry permit at all.
Though personally, I would lean toward the .357 (more rounds in an identical package), the .44 is a versatile and typically very accurate cartridge. The downside to the .44 Magnum for self defense being that if used on a bipedal threat, most CA juries would see that as egregiously excessive force. When most non-gun people hear the words ".44 Magnum," they think not of Elmer Keith, but of Dirty Harry, a fictitious character written as the embodiment of excessive force to serve the main theme of the screenplay. Still, I'm no lawyer, but I don't think it would be an insurmountable issue--providing you haven't blown his head "clean off."
Though personally, I would lean toward the .357 (more rounds in an identical package), the .44 is a versatile and typically very accurate cartridge. The downside to the .44 Magnum for self defense being that if used on a bipedal threat, most CA juries would see that as egregiously excessive force. When most non-gun people hear the words ".44 Magnum," they think not of Elmer Keith, but of Dirty Harry, a fictitious character written as the embodiment of excessive force to serve the main theme of the screenplay. Still, I'm no lawyer, but I don't think it would be an insurmountable issue--providing you haven't blown his head "clean off."
Quick review on those 260 grain 44 special Grizzlies - I'd say these are at the top of special loads. From 0 to 10, 10 being a Garrett load at around 1450 ft lbs, and typical magnums 8 and 9, a +P in 44 special at 7 at around 7-900 ft lbs, these 260 grain would be a 6. It didn't rock my hand with our 629pc 2 5/8" and was quick to get back on target, so very manageable, but you could tell it really had some punch at around 520 ft lbs. It really blew a hole in my old aspen tree. I'd say these are for tough skinned critters, that could blow through some bone or penetrate skull very well for a 44 special, before slowing down, whereas a hollow point might not make it through in a special and just create a nasty wound.
I'm with BlackGun, 180-200 gr hollows and under 1000fps for ali ack bar turrorists and these for tough skinned and boned angry critters on the trail.
I'm with BlackGun, 180-200 gr hollows and under 1000fps for ali ack bar turrorists and these for tough skinned and boned angry critters on the trail.
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Ah, yes, CA restrictions
Can't go wrong with the 44. I have the 357 version and love it.I know you already got the 44, but if you ever want to mix things up, the Ruger Alaskan in 454 fits the same holsters as the my 629. Corbon DPX in 45 Colt is a devastating urban round. Simply presenting that gun has been known to make perps pass out on sight
The Alaskan is heavier, but the up side is it absorbs recoil much better and is much easier to keep on target.
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Exactly. Here in Nevada 1 permit is good for any & all handguns
you have.
I'd go with the 44.
