.357mag load M19

[ARMinSC]

Does anyone think 14.5grs of 2400 under a 158gr LSWC is too much for a model 19? Meaning would it beat up the forcing cone. Worried about the gun more than I'm am the load.

 

[matsu]

It will beat up your hand more then your M19 back off at least 1gr

 

[David LaPell]

From what I recall the 125 grain bullets were what the issues were with the Model 19 forcing cones. My only question with such a load is, why?? You are more likely to have a little better accuracy out of a slightly milder load like 13.0 grains of 2400 and still have plenty of velocity. It's not always about the speed. I know 13.0 grains of 2400 and a 160 grain SWC out of my Model 27 works just fine and recoil isn't that bad. Having 14.0 grains of 2400 in a Model 19 will be pretty snappy.

 

[cjw3]

I think most of the forcing cone issues were traced to hot 125 grain (and lighter) jacketed bullets, so you should be alright as far as that goes.

From what I've seen in my Lyman manual, 14.5 is near the max load so wear and tear could be an issue if you run through a lot of them in a K frame. It's not going to come unglued on you or anything, but in time it will loosen up. When I feel the need to shoot a lot of .357 Magnums on the upper end, I get out the 686.

I've run up to 14.0/2400 with that bullet in my 6" M19 but wasn't all that impressed with the accuracy. I really got that gun primarily to shoot .38 Special wadcutters in, but did want to have a decent .357 load on tap for occasional use. I settled on 12.5 grains, which gave me 1230 fps and 8 shots into 2.2" off a rest at 25 yards...naturally I had two flyers that opened it up some, but that's how it goes. That's fast enough for me and the accuracy is pretty good, so that's what I use in it. Good luck.

 

[venomballistics]

take your thumb nail to one of your LSWC's and see if you can scratch it .. I bet you can ... try the same with any jacketed projectile .....
with that research completed you are then qualified to determine what bullet will have a better chance of beating up on a forcing cone

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Does anyone think 14.5grs of 2400 under a 158gr LSWC is too much for a model 19? Meaning would it beat up the forcing cone. Worried about the gun more than I'm am the load.

I have shot a lot of ammo made with exactly the same recipe, 14.5gr 2400 under a 158gr LSWC bullet. I usually shoot them in a M686 because that's what I have but like said above, it's the 125gr bullet at screaming velocities that was doing the damage to the forcing cones on a K frame, not ammo firing a 158gr bullet. IMO if you like that load and it's accurate there's really no reason to change it.

(how about a photo of your M19?)

 

[ARMinSC]

The 19's not here just yet but I'll post some pics when it is. I have 200rds of this loaded up for another gun, but I sold it. I guess I'll just have to go get a 686. I knew it was the 125gr that was an issue with the 19's but I wasn't sure if hotter stuff would be a problem too. I might shoot a few to see how they are in it but I guess I won't shoot alot. I like .38spl for just punching paper but every now and then I like a little .357mag just for the fun of it. Thanks fellers

 

[LAH]

Does anyone think 14.5grs of 2400 under a 158gr LSWC is too much for a model 19? Meaning would it beat up the forcing cone. Worried about the gun more than I'm am the load.

For me that load is a little much for everyday use in the M19.

 

[ncbengal]

I started at 11.0 gr 2400 and 158 gr Berry plated bullets; then went up as high as 14 gr for a few rounds. No more - just felt too hot for me. Believe 12 gr 2400 with mag. primers (around 1100 fps per data sheet) is a good round. Berry says don't drive plated bullets past 1100 anyhow.

 

[ncbengal]

Forgot to say: also speaking of Mod 19-4.

 

[Roy W.]

I just recently went to the range and fired two cylinders of 14.5 grains of 2400 under a Lazer Cast 158 gr LSWC out of a 2" Model 66. With Pachmyers I didn't consider it to be earth shattering, but it would probably blind you at night.