.38 S&W

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Ok I'm just wanting to know some more info on this pistol it was my grandfathers it's a revolver it's got a snubbed nose an it takes .38 s&w not .38 special. I've shot it several times and it fires great, the only thing wrong with it is it's a little scratched up and the hand ejector is just slightly bent you almost can't tell its bent until you go to eject the shells and it just sticks and you have to push it back. Like I said it's a great gun I wanna know how old it is and what it's worth. The serial numbers I found on it are 73478. And I'll be posting pics soon
 
Sorry about the quality I'll try to take some more and how do I find out how old it is and were there a lot of snubbed noses issued back in the day
 
Welcome to the forum. It looks like a nice flat latch revolver. Did the numbers come off the bottom of the grip frame? Open the cylinder and see if you see any numbers like 36. Or better yet, open it up and take some close ups and post them.
 
I'll say in .38 S&W w/2" it's a .38 Terrier, mid 1950s. But I don't think the SN matches. Are you sure about the exact SN?
 
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Thanks and yea I opened it up and the numbers that I have up are the ones I saw when I opened the revolver and I'll put the serial number off the bottom of the grip and are the pics blurry or to small
 
Serial is on the butt. A 38 S&W with a 2" barrel sounds like a Terrier to me.

This one is serial 80633 and I think it's about 1955. If yours is 73478 it would be a year or two earlier.


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Well I thought the number would be by the cylinder but I guess that's diff models and I've been wondering why did they stop making (or do they still make .38s) and went to .38 special? I know that .38 special is gonna pack more punch but did the .38 just not have any power at all. And I'm guessing I have a mid to late fifties maybe early sixties model but how do I know if it was a police issue
 
S&W began assigning model numbers in 1958. Without a model number, it would have been shipped before 1958. Based on the serial number on SaxonPigs Terrier, yours would have to be 1956 or 1957. I don’t think there’s any way to determine if it may have been a police issue other than getting a factory letter that MAY or may not show that it was shipped to a police department.
 
"I've been wondering why did they stop making (or do they still make .38s) and went to .38 special? I know that .38 special is gonna pack more punch but did the .38 just not have any power at all."

The .38 S&W was one of the very early black powder centerfire revolver cartridges, dating back to 1876. It was originally intended for a new generation of compact pocket model revolvers, and was ideal for that purpose. The .38 S&W was extremely popular for many years, and many different revolvers from many different manufacturers were in wide use all over the world because it provided a lot of power in a small concealable package. It still does. At one time police departments all over the country used both Colt and S&W revolvers chambered in .38 S&W, and considered them entirely adequate for that purpose.

It wasn't until the early 20th Century that the .38 Special cartridge and revolvers for it were developed to fulfill a military need for a more powerful sidearm. Its superiority over the .38 S&W cartridge was soon recognized, and by the 1920s revolvers in .38 Special had largely replaced those in .38 S&W in police service. However, note that between WWI and WWII, the British Commonwealth adopted the .38 S&W as their official military revolver cartridge. Millions of .38 S&W revolvers of several designs (including the S&W Military and Police revolver) were used by them all over the world during WWII, continuing into the 1950s.

For much of its history up until today, the .38 S&W cartridge has been loaded with smokeless powder to the old black powder ballistics levels. This because enormous numbers of revolvers made during the late 19th and early 20th centuries were still in circulation and due to their weak design would be unsafe if .38 S&W cartridges were to be loaded more powerfully. In a more modern solid frame revolver, the .38 S&W cartridge can be loaded more heavily by handloaders to nearly reach .38 Special ballistics levels. Of course, for legal liability reasons ammunition manufacturers cannot do this. One (Buffalo Bore) does produce a more powerful loading of the .38 S&W , but with the warning that it cannot be used in the old top break revolvers.

The .38 S&W cartridge is still loaded today, but it is not very popular. Therefore most retailers no longer stock it, and it is somewhat difficult to find. But if you are a handloader and have some more modern solid frame guns in that caliber, it's fully satisfactory for about any defensive use.
 
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My terrier occasionally makes it in to carry rotation, but I don't have pretty pink boot grips like that!
 
True I-frame Terrier's are a great CCW piece- noticeably smaller in-pocket than a modern J-frame. Since getting it in mid-July, my Terrier has been my mid-size weapon of choice. I have found that Fiocchi make the hottest regular production ammo in this caliber, including 146 gr LRN or FMJ and a somewhat rare mil-spec .380 MKII loading with the 178 gr FMJ. I hope to try the Buffalo Bore when it is more available.
 
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I too have a 38 S&W Terrier in my CCW rotation, although it doesn't get as much carry time as the 32 HE Snub and the Baby Chief, mostly due to the cost and sketchy availability of ammo. Mine is a pre-War issue, so it is a bit smaller than any equivalent 38 Special.

There is nothing wrong with your late pre-Model 32, and it will make a very good carry piece or fit nicely in a bedside table. As friend David Wilson frequently observes, although the 38 S&W sometimes doesn't get much respect, it should!

Froggie
 
See I got my Springfield xdm .45 that I carry but it's so damn bulky lol.but I love the way I can pretty much put this .38 anywhere and it be concealable I just wanna make sure that the .38 could put somebody down, you hear a lot about what a .45 an do but not really anything on .38s
 
As has been so often said, proper bullet placement is King, no matter what caliber you are talking about. And if you miss with a .45, the bad guy keeps on coming.

Many thousands have ended up in the ground after being shot by a .38 S&W. It's no worse in defensive capability than a .380 and better than anything smaller. Life is full of tradeoffs. My carry gun is a .25 Auto.
 
Very true and really any gun is better than no gun do they make any home defense rounds for .38
 
Good stuff man I just looked at the site. How much would one of these terriers sell for
 
Here is a J frame, SB #36 with a pre #30 to give you an idea of the difference in size.
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About a year ago I found a Terrier in a NC pawn shop for a bit under $350.00, marked as a #36. I had no idea of it's value and posted about it on the forum. With new knowledge, I headed back to NC but the gun guy at the pawn shop had listed it on a broker site and sold it to a forum member here. I would think an excellent specimen with its box would cost $600.00+.

The 32-1 I gave my D-I-L had the original stocks, box, and paper but the J frames do not being as much money.
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Ahhh ok I deff don't have the box lol but I just wanted to know how much it was worth. I don't think I could get rid of it anyway because it was my grandfathers, I appreciate all you guys y'all have been a lot of help. This is a great little revolver and I am a lot more proud to own one now lol I always enjoy learning about weapons I just got a few more questions lol what's with the numbers by the cylinder that I originally put up
 
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