.38 Special 130gr FMJ Question

[mr-mom]

Let me preface by stating that I have loaded and shot thousands of 9mm, .40 & .45 cal. handgun cartridges successfully. Just have never loaded any .38/357. Recently acquired a 3-die set of RCBS carbide dies that have a roll crimp, and some Winchester 130 gr FMJ FP bullets (all the LGS had in stock). A couple questions have come to mind as I prepare to work up some target loads. In looking thru my several handbooks, I find no data on loads for the 130gr bullets. I know I can start with load data for the next higher weight bullet, but wonder if anyone has worked up loads for the 130 gr? Secondly, the FMJ bullets have no ring. I've read that one should not use the roll crimp on these bullets. Can I roll crimp, use no crimp?? How does one load these things anyway?!

 

[lebomm]

These bullets are made for the .38 Super Auto, and WW just rolls a cannelure into them when they load 'em as .38 Spl. If you try to roll-crimp these, you'll run a heavy risk of buckling the case, because the edges of the mouth have no place to go. You might try using your 9mm die for a taper crimp. I happen to have an old cannelure roller on my loading bench, but I haven't seen one advertised for a long time.

 

[JBnTx]

For target loads try some 158 grain SWC bullets.

Cheaper, easier on the gun and barrel, and they have a crimping grove.

 

[358156hp]

You can use 125 gr JHPs if you really need that bullet weight. As mentioned before, you have 9mm/38 Super bullets, and, while it can be done, they are pretty much useless in a revolver. The 9mm taper crimp is an idea, but bear in mind that you're starting out with an undersized bullet. Like it said, it can be done, but you'll need to fuss with a few details. A roll crimp will never work with that bullet unless you apply a cannelure, which requires special tooling to do.

 

[Treeman]

Actually you can seat them deep enough that you crimp over the beginning of the ogive and it will work just fine.

 

[mr-mom]

Thanks for the replies guys. After looking at things and reading up a little, I kinda thought the LGS sold me a bunch of over ripe bananas. Think I'll return them and send an order in to MG for something that will work correctly.

 

[H Richard]

Returning them is on the right track, I have found over many years I can't get good accuracy form any jacketed bullets less than 140 gr. in a 38 or 357. If yo have to use these, try a taper crimp die which will work fine. Just don't expect much in the way of accuracy.