.38 Super on the Way/Range report added

[glenncal1]

So I was wanting a .38 Super in a DA format (I already have a 1911 in .38 super. love the caliber) and was looking at the Sig p220 which in the past was chambered in .38super. The guns now go for really big money. So I just ordered a Tanfoglio Witness for a lot less $$. Should be here in a week or so. Looking forward to it. Stock photo

 

[Shoebox1.1]

I had a witness elite match 45acp. Heavy piece but absolutely a tack driver!! Love the witness pistols

 

[DWalt]

I have owned a Witness for over 15 years. I have it set up for .45 ACP, .38 Super, and 9x19. The 9x19 and .38 Super use the same slide, so the only things needed to change to 9x19 from .38.Super is a 9x19 barrel and magazine. I also fire 9x23 Winchester in the .38 Super barrel, and use a stronger recoil spring. Actually, you can also fire any 9x23 round. The Witness is about the closest thing you can get to the old Bren Ten. It is actually even better than the Bren Ten. My only complaint about the Witness (at least the steel frame version) is its substantial weight. If you wish to go the other direction, you need a .45 slide, barrel, and magazine. You can also convert the Witness to .40 S&W or 10 MM the same way, but I care little about either of those calibers. You won't be sorry you got a Witness.

 

[Muley Gil]

I remember when Browning BDA pistols in .38 Super were being discounted because nobody wanted them.

Try to buy one now.

 

[colt_saa]

You will like it

When the folks at EAA were in Opa Locka they used to shoot IPSC at my Uncle Hal's range. That was way back in the 80s and 90s.

I can't recall when I actually got these, but it was at least 25 years ago.

One is 45ACP and the other is 38SUPER

My experience with these two got me to add a several additional Tangfolios, mostly in 10MM Auto

I wish they had kept the Super Sight

I much prefer the lines before they added the Equipment rail

There are others as well. Hard to go wrong with these Italian pistols

 

[bananaman]

I have never fired a .38 Super! Have read about the cartridge but that's it. Wrestled about a 1911 in that caliber but prices are crazy and another cartridge to reload!
Have had good with the 2 Witness guns that I owned. One 9mm and 1 45 ACP.
Let us know how it works for you. Bob

 

[mikerjf]

Does EAA make a decocker style, like the PCR?

 

[colt_saa]

Does EAA make a decocker style, like the PCR?

EAA is no longer the US Importer of Tangfolio

In 2021, IFG, the Italian Firearms Group, became the exclusive US importer of Tangfolio

The current Tangfolio Defense firearms that IFG imports does not include a decocker

It is possible that Tangfolio makes a decocker for a market other than the US, but I doubt it

 

[jake1945]

I have a Colt 1911 in 38 Super. The slide rattles to beat heck but it is really accurate. My Colt 1911 in 45acp has a tight slide and not so accurate!

 

[deputydon]

I have a Caspian Arms LTD Frame Long Slide with Clark bbl in .38 Super.
It is my favorite 1911 pistol. It shoots like a rifle in a rest, but not so good
with my ageing eyes & hands.

-don

 

[DWalt]

I have always had a thing for the .38 Super, have owned five different pistols, still have two - a Colt 1911 and the Witness. Also, some .38 Special revolvers will chamber and fire some brands of .38 Super. There is enough dimensional tolerance overlap to make that possible. Using 9x23 Win brass and reloading, you can get into .357 territory with a semiauto.

 

[STCM(SW)]

I have reloaded for my 38 super but for any need I have Buffalo Bore
38 Super +P......

 

[stansdds]

In a large frame pistol like the 1911 or Witness (large frame, not the small frame that is limited to 9x19 or 40 S&W length cartridges), the 38 Super makes more sense than 9x19mm. You get a longer, magazine filling cartridge with slightly better ballistics. I know a lot of people have 1911's chambered in 9x19 and they love them, I just don't see the utility of having so much empty space in the magazine.

 

[rosewood]

In a large frame pistol like the 1911 or Witness (large frame, not the small frame that is limited to 9x19 or 40 S&W length cartridges), the 38 Super makes more sense than 9x19mm. You get a longer, magazine filling cartridge with slightly better ballistics. I know a lot of people have 1911's chambered in 9x19 and they love them, I just don't see the utility of having so much empty space in the magazine.

Same applies to the 10mm over 40.

 

[stansdds]

Same applies to the 10mm over 40.

Yep. Only reason for a 40 barrel in a 1911 would be for using ammo that is less expensive and easier to find than 10mm Auto. Other than that, the 10mm Auto beats the snot out of the 40 S&W.

 

[505Gibbs]

I have several 38 Super's - here's a couple.

 

[DWalt]

Yep. Only reason for a 40 barrel in a 1911 would be for using ammo that is less expensive and easier to find than 10mm Auto. Other than that, the 10mm Auto beats the snot out of the 40 S&W.

If you want 10mm performance from a M1911 just buy a .400 CorBon barrel. The downside is a lower capacity magazine, you have to form your own brass, and you have to load your own as I don't think any factory ammunition exists. But making your own is fairly easy. I shoot my M1911 very well, but I normally load it below 10mm performance. I am not sure why the .400 CB did not find much of a following. I can say little negative about it aside from ammunition supply if you do not reload.

 

[stansdds]

If you want 10mm performance from a M1911 just buy a .400 CorBon barrel. The downside is a lower capacity magazine, you have to form your own brass, and you have to load your own as I don't think any factory ammunition exists. But making your own is fairly easy. I shoot my M1911 very well, but I normally load it below 10mm performance. I am not sure why the .400 CB did not find much of a following. I can say little negative about it aside from ammunition supply if you do not reload.

That's too much like work, much easier for me to buy or load some 10mm Auto and use my Colt Delta Elite to scratch that itch.

 

[DWalt]

Actually it is no more work to make or load .400 CB than any other handgun cartridge. One pass of a .45 ACP case through the..400 FL die followed by priming, adding powder, and seating a bullet, and you are done. Assuming that you are already a reloader and have the tools.

 

[Michaelp57]

Ammo

Actually it is no more work to make or load .400 CB than any other handgun cartridge. One pass of a .45 ACP case through the..400 FL die followed by priming, adding powder, and seating a bullet, and you are done. Assuming that you are already a reloader and have the tools.

Underwood ammo has two different kinds of .400 corbon in stock as I type this. I think it didnt catch on because it's the odd middle child between 10mm and .40 super(also 10mm mag, but not the same beast). Most people who want a more powerful .40cal stick to 10mm, or if that's not enough, they go for .40 super. Not saying it's a bad round, as I've never shot it, but that's my theory as to why it hasn't caught on. The middle child almost never gets enough love. .41mag or .40s&w are prime examples of this.