.380

[rwsmith]

Don't judge by PPU....

I think that their rifle ammo is better than their revolver stuff but I call it Pee-eww Ammo. I think they are a great company though prices are good and I reuse their brass a LOT. And finding good Russian cases that are boxer primed is really a plus.

It's like buying once-shot brass that needs to be shot one time before you use it.

PS: I use coated bullets a lot. Especially the Hy tec. You can buy bags of 100 from Bayou Bullets to check them out.

 

[Al W.]

I have bought new PPU brass for my .38sp HBWC loads, good durable stuff

(It's like buying once-shot brass that needs to be shot one time before you use it.)

The product is good, but perhaps a bit hot for target shooting.

(PS: I use coated bullets a lot. Especially the Hy tec. You can buy bags of 100 from Bayou Bullets to check them out.)

I haven't had great luck with coated projectiles in my .380, they seem to give me the same result as plated, which is to say, bad accuracy . Chrome plated barrels and polygonal rifling seems to require FMJ.

 

[Imissedagain]

I haven't had great luck with coated projectiles in my .380, they seem to give me the same result as plated, which is to say, bad accuracy . Chrome plated barrels and polygonal rifling seems to require FMJ.

I'd be curious if chrome lined barrels are a factor.

 

[6thtexas]

I have been using an Accurate Mold # 26-122t with 2.9 grains of HP-38. This bullet weighs 122 grains and is very accurate. it has a large meplat and the load chronographs 758fps from my LCP. Another load I use on occasion is the NOE Ranch Dog 100gr. FP with 3.5 grains of HP-38. This load will do 905 fps on average from the LCP but it is running at maximum. Both loads will penetrate at least 4 one gallon jugs filled with water and keep on going. The 122 grain bullet load is more accurate and what I carry in the LCP. BTW the 2.9 grains of HP-38 with the 100 grain bullet will give a tad over 800 fps out of the LCP and is a nice light load.

 

[dannyabear]

I think that their rifle ammo is better than their revolver stuff but I call it Pee-eww Ammo. I think they are a great company though prices are good and I reuse their brass a LOT. And finding good Russian cases that are boxer primed is really a plus.

It's like buying once-shot brass that needs to be shot one time before you use it.

PS: I use coated bullets a lot. Especially the Hy tec. You can buy bags of 100 from Bayou Bullets to check them out.

You can't go wrong with Bayo Bullets, owned and operated by Jerry Miculecs brother, Donnie

 

[rwsmith]

Well, I didn't...

You can't go wrong with Bayo Bullets, owned and operated by Jerry Miculecs brother, Donnie

Well I didn't know that!

 

[Al W.]

I'd be curious if chrome lined barrels are a factor.

My Makarov barrel is chrome plated and it will shoot the plated 100 gr bullets pretty well. On paper on a NRA 25 yd slow fire target at 25 yds, which is about all I can ask.
The CZ is much more consistent but must have the FMJ to get the good results. With plated , its bad news.

 

[max503]

I've been meaning to get out my Colt Pocketlite. I've got two molds: a 105 grain SWC and a RNFP that has the same weight and profile as factory FMJ. I need to get that sucker out and play with it!
I use Unique for almost all my handgun loads.

 

[pjames32]

I use Accurate #5 because it meters well and I buy it in quantity. I cast a 95gr TC bullet. I had to adjust OAL to function in my 2 guns. I'm not really concerned with accuracy. I load this so I can keep up with practice with the gun that usually resides in my front pocket. Finding the empties with my 7+ decade eyes is the big problem.

 

[Al W.]

Shooting outdoors ? No brass for you..

I've just about given up finding my spent brass if I'm shooting .380 out of doors !

 

[Triggernosis]

I've just about given up finding my spent brass if I'm shooting .380 out of doors !

I can sympathize with you on that. It seems like the .380 brass always wants to land mouth-up in the grass and they're almost impossible to find like that. If I'm shooting out on the farm I'll bet I usually recover less than 25% of my .380 brass.

 

[Triggernosis]

Excellent advice.

Worthy of being repeated (which is why I quoted it rather than just hitting "Like").

Just curious - why is this?

 

[Al W.]

What I have been told..

Just curious - why is this?

Folks say that the .380 blow back barrels are more lightly constructed than other SA barrels that use the linkage system. So its said that you can get barrel bulges and other problems if you push the loads. If you make even a cursory examination of a blow back pistol the thickness of the barrel is clearly thinner than any linked pistol I own. Its one of the reason that you seldom see production models of 9mm luger with the blow back system.
Or so my reading leads me to believe.
Always willing to change my opinion in the face of facts !

 

[Triggernosis]

Folks say that the .380 blow back barrels are more lightly constructed than other SA barrels that use the linkage system. So its said that you can get barrel bulges and other problems if you push the loads. If you make even a cursory examination of a blow back pistol the thickness of the barrel is clearly thinner than any linked pistol I own. Its one of the reason that you seldom see production models of 9mm luger with the blow back system.
Or so my reading leads me to believe.
Always willing to change my opinion in the face of facts !

10-4.
Thanks.

 

[Imissedagain]

Folks say that the .380 blow back barrels are more lightly constructed than other SA barrels that use the linkage system. So its said that you can get barrel bulges and other problems if you push the loads. If you make even a cursory examination of a blow back pistol the thickness of the barrel is clearly thinner than any linked pistol I own. Its one of the reason that you seldom see production models of 9mm luger with the blow back system.
Or so my reading leads me to believe.
Always willing to change my opinion in the face of facts !

Blowback and locked breach...... different designs..
but barrel thickness ?
Sig238 vs S&WALTHER PPKs .... while a new HD-CA Sig is on the way and the 460 Snub is ill .... will keep using the Equinox....
my boy left behind.

 

[Al W.]

but barrel thickness ?

Yes, the barrel wall is thinner on the blowbacks , that I own. Perhaps due the the barrel being wrapped with the recoil spring.
It would limit the design?
You had 1 company develop a 9mm Luger blow back , that was discontinued and since there have been only Makarov and .380 for the 9mm. Everyone has a .22 and .32. but nothing larger.
Wiser heads than I know exactly why.
Perhaps they will speak up .

 

[Triggernosis]

Who made this 9mm blowback that you reference?

 

[Imissedagain]

Would a locked breech have a larger diameter barrel in the barrel bushing area?
Blowbacks are fixed barrels?
Will be cleaning bores of several of these 380s tomorrow... will measure.

 

[Al W.]

Who made this 9mm blowback that you reference?

I have 2 .
CZ 83
Imez Makarov in .380

 

[Al W.]

Would a locked breech have a larger diameter barrel in the barrel bushing area?
Blowbacks are fixed barrels?
Will be cleaning bores of several of these 380s tomorrow... will measure.

I'm not referring to the barrel OD or ID, I'm referring the the barrel wall thickness.