386NG Range Report

Epicuren

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Long time lurker; first time poster here. I picked up my first "Hillary Hole" Smith week before last; promptly cleaned it and headed to my range.


First the good news: The sights are awesome!. It shot very tight groups with POI about 2" below POA at 10 yards, not quite as good as my 6" Model 14 but still impressive for a 2.5" barrel. Recoil was very manageable for a light weight gun (much better than my 640) and follow up shots were very fast with aid of the magnificent sights. For me, balance was not a issue due to it's weight. The stocks will be replaced with Ahrends Boot Grips, but were pleasant enough, though too aggressive and massive for my tastes.

Now the bad news: I ran 300 rounds of my favorite reloads (158 gr. LSWC over 3.3 gr Bullseye in mixed cases with CCI primers) and had 4 FTFs. Since my plan was to use this gun for winter CC, I was very disappointed. Research here and at other forums lead me to conclude that the problem was either the shorter (0.485") firing pin Smith now uses; or the very hard CCI primers; or both. I loaded another 100 rounds using CCI, 100 using PMC (from the Great Primer Shortage of 2009) and bought 2 boxes of American Eagle to compare the "softer" Federal primers. I returned to the range yesterday and all 300 rounds fired without failure. Upon further inspection of the dud rounds I discovered that the primers were 0.001" to 0.002" above flush while all of the second test rounds were flush to 0.002" below. My original rounds were primed on press and my second batch I hand primed to assure consistency. So the problem was not the gun or the primers; but my loading. Now, I've never had this problem with my 3 J frames nor my model 14, 15, 586 or Colt Trooper; so I suppose we could conclude that this gun is ammo picky and I'll not carry it until I replace the firing pin with an Apex 0.495" pin, do a hysterectomy to remove the lock and have 1000 rounds without a FTF. I'll keep y'all posted.
 
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Hi, I posted about my first time out with a 315ng (38 special only). I shot three different factory loads with no issues with failure to fire and am very pleased overall with the gun. I hope you like yours as well as I like mine. I wanted the same gun you have but found a killer deal on a slightly used 315
 
Thanks rkc. I'm convinced that if I had run factory loads througth mine I would not have had a single FTF. It's strange that once a FTF occurs a lot of trust is lost. That's why I converted from semis.

I really like the 386 and know that the majority of the responsibility for the FTFs is mine. I'll come to trust it after giving it the opportunity to prove it can handle my reloads.
 
Sounds like you found the solution. As a side note; Did you check the strain screw to make sure it's tight. Somtimes they get loose and cause misfires. Just a possiblility.
 
Moral of the story------Carry NEW factory rounds for SD. Buy a couple boxes, shoot them before doing any mods. I shoot a lot of reloads, but never use them for anything other than range.
 
Thomas - yep, I check strain screws after each range trip and it was more than tight.

Batmann - Roger that! Nothing but 135 gr Gold Dots in the J frames. I'm thinking about trying the Buffalo Bore 158 gr LSWCHPs in the 386.

I haven't gotten the Apex firing pin yet, but there'll be another 400 rounds of reloads through it this weekend to start rebuilding the trust. If it can reliably handle my range ammo I know it will be totally trustworthy with factory SD loads.
 
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