what is the best 180gr for a .40. price is not an issue im willing to pay extra for reliability.i carry golden sabres right now but i recently seen tests on them that made them look like there unable to hold on to the jacket
FWIW, tests on .40 S&W ammo by the OHP rated Speer Gold Dot 180gr first and Golden Sabre 180gr second. Their criteria including shooting through windshields, which probably accounts for the 180gr preference.
* All frangible loads.
* 155-gr. due to lack of penetration. All copper HP from Barnes is OK for a lightweight bullet.
* 165-gr. unbonded and non +P due to less than ideal penetration. Bonded midweights are OK at +P velocities.